Wednesday 15 January 2014
Summary | ||
The Prosecution Case Continues | ||
Continued CCTV Evidence on Count 7 | ||
Witness – Dave Cutts (Mobile phone network expert witness) | ||
Prosecution Counsel continue questioning Dave Cutts | ||
Counsel for Mark Hanna cross examines Dave Cutts | ||
Further Prosecution questions to Dave Cutts | ||
Witness – Fernando Nascimento (Cleaner at Chelsea Harbour) | ||
Prosecution Counsel questions Fernando Nascimento through an interpreter | ||
Counsel for Charlie Brooks cross examines Fernando Nascimento | ||
Counsel for Mark Hanna cross examines Fernando Nascimento | ||
Witness – Alan Ramsay (Facilities Manager of Chelsea Harbour) | ||
Prosecution Counsel questions Alan Ramsay | ||
Counsel for Charlie Brooks cross examines Alan Ramsay |
The Prosecution Case Continues | ||
Continued CCTV Evidence on Count 7 | ||
Jury are back in for the #hackingtrial continuing with evidence from Dave Cutts, police expert on cell site evidence (mobile triangulation) | ||
Bryant Heron thanks the defence teams for their co-operation over this evidence | ||
Witness – Dave Cutts (Mobile phone network expert witness) | ||
Prosecution Counsel continue questioning Dave Cutts | ||
Bryant Heron for the Crown focuses on the Jubilee Barn and Enstone area on the 15th July 2011: jury have A4 maps of the area and masts | ||
Cutts statement comes from last summer: he was following the movement of Charlie Brooks‘ phone over various time periods | ||
His conclusion about Charles Brooks’ cell phone is that it connected to the cell site for Jubilee Barn that morning with two exceptions | ||
Those two divergences suggest, agrees Cutts, movement towards the NW (not in direction of Enstone Manor Farm) | ||
The second time segment from the 15/07/11 was approximately 11 am-12pm: call data suggests C Brooks moved toward Enstone Manor farm. | ||
Between 12.35 and 15.35 Brooks mobile phone appeared to move back to his residence at Jubilee Barn 15/07/11 | ||
Now onto Charlie Brooks‘ movements on the 16th July 2011 according to cell site expert David Cutts | ||
In the early morning – 7.56 to 8.01 – Mr Brooks’ phone connected to “cell sites in the vicinity of Enstone Manor Farm’ | ||
8.13 to 8.53 mobile moved East to Jubilee barn. 9.10 to 23.36 on that Saturday the call data consistent with return to Enstone Manor Farm | ||
Bryant Heron for the crown now looks at call data for Charlie Brooks on the 17th July 2011 – the day his wife Rebekah Brooks was arrested | ||
A colour coded map shows Lee Sandell, Mark Hanna, Charlie and Rebekah Brooks phone in the area of Enstone that morning | ||
Another map shows the movement of private security operatives David Johnson and phone designated ‘Blackhawk 1’ | ||
David Johnson’s mobile moves from Enstone Manor Farm to Jubilee Barn that morning – counter surveillance personal protection for Brooks’ | ||
David Cutts explains that different mobile companies often but not always use different masts – differences between Blackhawk1 and Johnson | ||
Jury shown another map from early that Sunday morning Brooks was arrested, identifying the phone of both Brooks’ and Daryl Jorsling | ||
Map 4 will be dealt with in more detail later – a subject needing clarification from Hanna’s defence counsel. | ||
The fifth map shows the phones of Hanna and Sandell on 17/07/11 which culminates, around 13.04, with arrival at NI HQ at Wapping | ||
The other ‘events’ supported by cell site evidence – pages 5-8 – is all agreed evidence, no dispute by defence counsels | ||
Saunders asks how a phone can use two masts – 12k apart – at the same time. | ||
Cutts explains that recorded events are the ‘start times’ not duration; and it’s possible to be in two cell sites without moving much | ||
Saunders relates how it is possible to use a phone in court “though you shouldn’t” and it can move mast by simply changing body direction | ||
That bit of insight thanks to an astute question by the jury at the #hackingtrial | ||
Page 8 shows David Johnson’s mobile call data consistent with being at Lewisham police station during the period of Rebekah Brooks‘ arrest | ||
Next map gives cell site evidence showing Hanna and Sandell moving from Wapping to Chelsea Quay – arriving 13.33 on 17/07/11 | ||
On page 11 of the schedule, relates to Map 10, shows Hanna and Sandell back in Wapping according to cell site data from their mobile phones | ||
On p13 of the 19 page call data schedule – we’re into the evening of the 17th and movements of Daryl Jorsling: from Lewisham to Wapping | ||
Call data then shows Jorsling driving from Wapping to the Brooks’ London residence at Thames Quay: that completes that exercise | ||
Cutts will then explain a little more about cell site data, and then they will analyse one map subject to some questions by the defence | ||
Now a presentation is blown up on the screen “Cell Site Overview”: a graphic (smiley face) connecting to cell site, network, landline etc. | ||
Next graphic shows that cell sites are effectively ‘hexagonal’ but a cell site cluster in reality is messier with overlapping coverage | ||
Slide 3 explains call data records: date, time, duration, originating or terminating mobile numbers, IMIE, and cell site identity number | ||
Next slide from police forensic expert shows a ‘call data record’ and all the info itemised in the previous slide | ||
Phone companies typically record the name and postcode of the mast at the beginning of the call, and then end – no intervening masts | ||
Next slide from MPS phone forensic expert shows there are three sectors for directional antennae – AZIMUTH is direction of antenna | ||
The mobile phone company gives a unique ID for each antenna: call records give directional sense of where the caller is in relation to mast | ||
Mosts masts have several antennae – but there are sometimes omnidirectional cell stones that don’t. NI had one but no Jubilee Barn | ||
Cutts shows a photo of a mast with three directional antennae: a second shows a omnidirectional ‘microcell’ for a business or shopping mall | ||
Cutts shows a map of Oxfordshire, and how in a rural environment a mast would typically cover 6-8km. In a urban environment much less | ||
Cutts summarises: call data from mobile phone gives an idea of location, duration and travel | ||
Bryant Heron for the Crown says he’d now like to move from the general to the specific – an A3 size map of Oxfordshire | ||
The title of the map looks at 17th July 9.12 to 9.53 and we focus on the mobile phones of Mark Hanna and Lee Sandell | ||
Both sides agree that both phones moved from Enstone towards Jubilee Barn: the off site meeting place for the Brooks and their home | ||
David Cutts and Bryant Heron for the crown go into some intense detail about calls and numbers no one can follow without a schedule | ||
Great Tew gets a mention in the hacking trial @johnmitchinson @rachael_kerr | ||
Cutts did a “radio propagation survey” using equipment to check the coverage of mobile phone masts for the Enstone Manor Farm area | ||
10 minute break | ||
Jury back in for detailed analysis of a specific period and area of cell site data for Mark Hanna and Lee Sandell on morning of 17/07/11 | ||
Dave Cutts, MPS forensic evidence expert, has tried to ascertain the movement of Hanna and Sandell towards Jubilee Barn around 9-10 am | ||
Saunders tries to unpack the movement of four calls “consistent with being made a Jubilee Barn” but four others not consistent | ||
Cutts says “they were simply in that vicinity or local area” about the different cell site data. | ||
Cutts explains how the Enstone cell site extends to within 4km of Jubilee Barn – the Brooks’ Oxfordshire residence. | ||
Three cell sites, it is established by Justice Saunders, provide coverage within the vicinity of the Brooks’ country home | ||
Counsel for Mark Hanna cross examines Dave Cutts | ||
Cutts is now cross examined by William Clegg, counsel for Mark Hanna about his statement and his cell site analysis | ||
Clegg asks “was the purpose of the exercise to establish if.. Hanna was in vicinity of Jubilee Barn between 9.15 and 9.53?” Cutts: “Yes” | ||
Clegg asks if the reading for Sandell was the same as Hanna’s: “Yes, it was.” | ||
“You were anxious not to make a mistake because a man’s liberty was a risk?” asks Clegg. Cutts; “Yes I did.” | ||
Clegg asks about Cutt’s conclusion 3.4 “confirming content police had asked him to consider… Hanna’s mobile phone… Jubilee Barn at 9.12” | ||
Cutts agrees “that appears to be a mistake by me” about 9.12 call by Hanna: “Had you not checked your evidence,” asks Saunders. | ||
Clegg for Hanna: “The end time was 9.53 – I hope you didn’t make a mistake there too”: Cutts admits that’s another mistake. | ||
“So you misread your own data when making your statement?” asks Saunders. Cutts says the name Castle Barn confused him | ||
“I can simply call it human error… but it’s clear that cell provides coverage to Enstone Manor,” says Cutts of misattributed calls. | ||
“Is that just thrashing about in your error, and saying the first thing that came into your head,” asks Clegg of Cutts’ error. | ||
“Perhaps you’re getting confused by that bit Mr Clegg” Justice Saunders says to counsel for Hanna about Chipping Norton Football ground mast | ||
Clegg for Hanna asks about 9.20 a.m. call in Jubilee Barn; “Another mistake?” Saunders: “Just say, yes.” | ||
“Are there any other mistakes?” asks Clegg. “Not that I’m aware of…” says Dave Cutts. They then trace the movement of Hanna | ||
Cutts seems to have switched four calls – two attributed to Jubilee Barn should be Enstone: two attributed to Enstone should be Jubilee Barn | ||
Cutts is asked whether a certain mast provides coverage on a road to Chipping Norton: “I don’t know if I have another survey data.. but yes” | ||
Clegg suggests that his was consistent with a journey to Chipping Norton from Enstone Manor? #theroadtochippingnorton | ||
Clegg says Hanna’s phone must “having been moving pretty fast… a helicopter” in its movement north of Jubilee Barn. | ||
“That was not something I was asked to consider,” Cutts says of this mooted journey to Chipping Norton. | ||
“Did you consider yourself to be an independent expert?” asks Clegg: “Yes. I always ask for defence case statement…” | ||
Cutts said he never received the defence case statement for Hanna although he asked DC Stent at the time of compiling his report | ||
Cutts was first asked to do the work on 7th October: Clegg says that Hanna defence case statement was served nine months earlier in January | ||
“If I don’t receive it, the presumption it’s not available,” says Cutts. He says he’s employed by the MPS but considers himself independent | ||
Clegg establishes that Cutts had seen the trial had begun, and must have know Hanna’s defence case statement had been served | ||
Cutt says there is not always a defence case statement in these instances. | ||
“I expect you phone up Mr Stent and asked for defence case statement,” asks Clegg. “No, unless I’m told there is something contentious>” | ||
“You’re very happy to leave that assessment to an unqualified police officer,” asks of Clegg. | ||
“It’s merely an unfortunate miscommunication,” asks Clegg. He establishes no written confirmation of request for defence case statement | ||
Clegg for Hanna asks more about the Thames Valley Police mast which was contacted on 9.15 call. 9.18 Chipping Norton football club | ||
“There’s a body of evidence consistent with someone driving to Jubilee Barn rather than being there throughout,” asks Clegg. | ||
“This is more consistent on the suggestion you were asked to consider by the police,” asks Clegg of Cutts. “Yes, that’s right’ says Cutts | ||
The next call of Hanna’s is routed through Chipping Norton around 9.20. Sandells a minute later also near Chipping Norton. | ||
Clegg for Hanna lights on a call from Hanna to Sandell that morning on the road to Chipping Norton: consistent with being in two cars. | ||
“That’s not fair,” says Saunders of Clegg claiming Cutts agreed with the judge over a debate between two masts. | ||
Next call data, routed through Charlbury Fire Station, is consistent with Lee Sandell being in Jubilee Barn area | ||
“Would you go agree… two phones travelled together in convoy to Jubilee Barn and then back,” asks Clegg. “Yes it is,” says Cutts | ||
Clegg for Hanna produces an ‘initial draft plan’ produced by Cutts and his team: “I don’t recognise this map,” says Cutts. | ||
“This looks like something prepared… not by my team… I’m only involved when police have obtained phone data,” says Cutts of plan. | ||
Edis offers to tell Mr Clegg what the document is: Cutts doesn’t know what this initial draft plan is. | ||
Clegg asks Cutts whether he has ever been asked where Hanna’s phone is between 1 am to 9 am that morning of the 17th July 2011. | ||
Edis for the Crown says “We have made admissions about this. I don’t think there’s any dispute about that. Or about much else.” | ||
Clegg asks to take further instructions over lunch from his client Hanna. The jury leave, told not to discuss evidence over lunch | ||
Back with #hackingtrial and cross examination of David Cutts, a forensic expert on cell sites – independent from MPS I hear. | ||
Clegg for Hanna has asked Cutts to re-examine the range of the Thames Valley Police mast and to see if it covers Jubilee Barn | ||
Cutts confirms the coverage reached to about half a mile: “Half a mile is in the vicinity, because it’s radio propagation, impossible: | ||
Saunders said he wasn’t aware of a specific question about the mast. | ||
“We can all take one piece of information out of context in order to get the story,” says Cutts of discrepancy in call data. | ||
“All my answers are caveatted by ‘at or in the vicinity of… ‘ that’s always my answer to these questions,” says Cutts of his mobile data | ||
“Half a mile away is not considered in normal English as ‘at’ the place,” interjects Justice Saunders. “Yes, my ‘lud,” agrees Cutts. | ||
Cutts agrees than many circumstances can affect the range of mobile phone masts. | ||
“I’m going to suggest you’re wrong about that,” says Clegg counsel for Hanna about one of Cutts’ cell site statements | ||
“M’luds mathematics is enviable,” says Mr Clegg of Saunders calculations of movement feet per second. | ||
Saunder is now looking at the 88ft before getting to a cell site – very granular level of detail being discussed at #hackingtrial | ||
“You’re not trying to help one side of this case are you? Is there any question of you being partisan?” asks Clegg. “No,” says Cutts. | ||
“A lot of your statement is wrong,” says Clegg. “I’ve put my case very clearly.” | ||
Further Prosecution questions to Dave Cutts | ||
Re-examination by Bryant Heron of Cutts: “Does call data support contention number was in vicinity of Jubilee Barn and Castle Barn?” | ||
That was the original question posed in Cutts’ written statement. | ||
Saunders says “you’ve been given a hard time in the witness box,” to Cutts. “It’s essential that experts are independent…” | ||
“It is vital that courts and juries can rely on experts. It may be that could can give an explanation for your mistakes,” Saunders warns | ||
Saunders says that in the future it may not be possible for defence to hire their own experts – points to dangers of mistakes. | ||
Witness – Fernando Nascimento (Cleaner at Chelsea Harbour) | ||
Prosecution Counsel questions Fernando Nascimento through an interpreter | ||
Bryant Heron calls Fernando Nascimento as a witness, accompanied by a Portuguese translator. | ||
The translator is sworn in: Saunders explains she is simply a conduit | ||
Now Mr Nascimento is sworn in via his interpreter | ||
Bryant Heron will ask questions the interpreter will translate. Asks him to answer in native tongue. Asks about events on 18/07/11 | ||
Nascimento confirms he was working in Chelsea Harbour, and “was doing things with rubbish bin and tractor” | ||
Nascimento is asked about the bins in the Charlie Car Park | ||
Nascimento confirms he went to the bins in the underground car park | ||
Bryant Heron for the crown says he will show some photos on the screen. The jury see shots of bin by lifts (invisible from yesterday’s CCTV) | ||
Nascimento confirms through his interpreter he recognises the location. He is shown another shot of three bins. Confirms their arrangement | ||
Nascimento is asked if he saw something else there? Doesn’t understand the question. He attached bins to tractor. | ||
When he attached the bins to the tractor, did you see something else? “I noticed a black bin liner behind one of the black bins.” | ||
Nascimento thinks it was black bin on the far right of picture shown to jury. | ||
Nascimento says it was impossible to see the black bin liner – but one of the bins was away from the wall. He went to look and could see. | ||
Nascimento confirms the black bin bag was closed, but it was possible to see what was inside because of small hole on top of the bag | ||
Nascimento say inside – not everything. He remembers a brown bag inside. | ||
Nascimento remembers the brown bag looked like it was made of leather | ||
Nascimento says when he first saw the black bin bag he didn’t move it away. He just put it beside the bin. He continued collecting wheelies | ||
Nascimento says he went around the car park to collect all the bins, and saw the black bag was still there, and so put it inside green bin | ||
Nascimento says he then to loading bay to unload the bins. There’s a rubbish compacting machine where he took the bins | ||
Just before he got to unloading the green bin into the compactor, Nascimento opened the black bin bag to see what it contained | ||
Nascimento saw two bags inside the black bin – he believes they were identical bags with different colours: one was brown, the other black | ||
Nascimento says he opened one of the bags – can’t remember which. | ||
Bryant Heron shows Nascimento’s statement from 18/07/11 and asks him if his memory would have been fresher then. He agrees. | ||
Bryant Heron asks the judge for leave to refer Nascimento to his original statement: interpreter locates Portuguese version | ||
Nascimento is asked if the statement refreshes his memory which bag he opened. No. “That was worth it,” jokes Saunders. | ||
Nascimento said he opened the brown bag, and there was a computer in there. He took the two bags to show to his supervisor. | ||
The black bin bag went into the compactor, but not the two bags inside, Nascimento clarifies. | ||
Nascimento said there was a computer in one of the bags, and an iPad in the other. The rest was all papers, says Nascimento. | ||
Nascimento says his supervisor, Ausino Reyes, contacted the security supervisor by radio. | ||
Nascimento and Reyes met security supervisor, Michael, at the loading bays, and handed bags to him. They had been put in another bin liner | ||
Later that day Nascimento spoke to boss Alan about how he had found bags, and then was asked to identify the two bags by a police officer. | ||
The court is shown two bags: buff soft leather bag, and a black World Economic forum shiny black fabric bag | ||
Counsel for Charlie Brooks cross examines Fernando Nascimento | ||
Saunders for Charlie Brooks cross examines Nascimento and is asked whether he knew there was CCTV there before July 11 – yes, says the witness. | ||
Nascimento doesn’t know whether it covers the whole area of the car park. Saunders shows Nascimento some CCTV which he says shows him driving | ||
Saunders for C Brooks asked Nascimento to see time code 10:36 – the moment he claims he saw the hidden bin bag | ||
10:40 – 4 minutes later Nascimento is asked if he looked to the left to see if black bin bag was still there “I think so,” he replies | ||
Nascimento returns five minutes later to go to bin area where black bin bag was. He had been around the car park he says. | ||
Nascimento agrees he went to collect the black bin bag and put into the bins – we see a flash of him putting black bin bag in recycle bin | ||
Nascimento doesn’t remember exactly where he drove to next. He opened the bag and thinks that was at the loading bay | ||
The jury are shown Nascimento arriving at the loading bay about 40 mins later. | ||
Nascimento agrees it’s only a few hundred yards to the loading bay – takes about ten minutes to get there. He arrives 11.21. | ||
Saunders asks if he could have opened it earlier. Nascimento agrees he could have done, within the bag. | ||
Nascimento is asked if the top of the computer was flat/closed. He says yes. “Someone has opened the computer up, was that you?” Saunders | ||
Nascimento says he might have opened it a fraction. He doesn’t know where he did that. Sometimes he goes to the river to get another bin | ||
“Yes, I was curious to know what was inside the bag,” says Nascimento | ||
Saunders says the person who opened the laptop tried to put in a password not once but twice. “Was that you?” No says Nascimento | ||
Nascimento says this wasn’t the first time he’s encountered equipment like this. He doesn’t know if there’s CCTV down by the river. | ||
Nascimento is asked why he described in his witness statement the laptop as a bit broken. It was an old computer, says Nascimento | ||
Nascimento is asked if he remembers the computer as a Sony Viao – no he says. | ||
Jury shown loading bay around 11.24 showing him going to first of four bins and removing brown and black bag. | ||
Nascimento says he was on the way to the supervisor’s office, Mr Reyes. | ||
Nascimento disagrees with Saunders assertion he took the nylon and leather bags to cleaning office to look at them out of sight | ||
Nascimento says the questions put by police officers don’t quite fit the order of account. He took it to supervisor not his office. | ||
Nascimento gave the statement in Portuguese and then translated into English – told he could change anything inaccurate. | ||
Nascimento says he doesn’t have very good Portuguese | ||
Nascimento says when the questions were put to him, and he explained the process; that is more or less what happened that day | ||
Nascimento says he didn’t empty out the bags – but did check them. He can’t remember an Apple laptop. | ||
Nascimento says his supervisor told him it was an Apple computer. He doesn’t know which computer was opened. | ||
“I don’t know how to use a computer,” says Mr Nascimento. | ||
Nascimento said he saw Mr Reye/Reis opening the computer, but not putting a password. | ||
Nascimento remembers Reis/Reyes didn’t pay much attention, but when they saw the new ipad and newer computer – too new to be in bins | ||
Jurt are shown brown bag with various items: Nascimento thinks he took the computer out of this bag. A Jiffy Bag is also visible. | ||
Nascimento says he didn’t open up the Jiffy Bag – “if you had you wouldn’t forgotten, | ||
BREAKING: Lesbian Lovers was the magazine hidden the Jiffy Bag according to Counsel for Charlie Brooks | ||
“I don’t understand English,” says Nascimento. “There wasn’t much writing on the magazine,” says Saunders. | ||
“If I had seen it I might have taken it,” says Nascimento of Charlie Brooks‘ copy of Lesbian Lovers. | ||
Saunders for Charlie Brooks suggests there was £1000 cash left in the bag abandoned by the wheelie bins. | ||
Of other paperwork Nascimento cannot remember his supervisor paying much attention. | ||
Mr Nascimento’s supervisor is also Portuguese and can’t read English. Didn’t call security right away. Protocol says contact manager first | ||
Nascimento agrees his supervisor Reis/Reyes is an old friend. He can’t remember an iPod or any chargers. Or black case for iPad. | ||
Nascimento doesn’t remember if the iPad had a black case. | ||
Nascimento says he’s know his supervisor socially and professionally for about six years – they became friends at work. | ||
Nascimento says he went to see the security guy. Ten minute break | ||
Back with Nascimento and his interpreter. He’s asked by Saunders for Charlie Brooks if he remembers lots of unopened letters | ||
Jury are shown a packed nylon bag with lots of papers: Nascimento remembers there were lots of papers. | ||
Nascimento can’t remember whether it was him or his supervisor who put them into one black bin liner. | ||
Counsel for Mark Hanna cross examines Fernando Nascimento | ||
Junior Counsel for Hanna, Duncan Penney, has further questions for Nascimento. He doesn’t know when the police searched the compactor | ||
Nascimento said he was asked which compactor he had used by police. They called back later. | ||
Penny for Hanna is asking about the black bin liner the bags were originally stored in. He reads two paras of Nascimento’s witness statement | ||
Penny is referring to a further statement by Nascimento on the 21st of July 2011. He wants confirmation it’s true. | ||
The second statement refers to a search the police were going to make of waste compactor where the rest of the rubbish was put. | ||
Nascimento was shown two black bin liners secured with tape at the top and was asked if they were the ones he discarded. “Yes, one of them” | ||
Nascimento said that he could only recognise the bag on the outside, twisted at the top, with sellotape around it. | ||
No re-examination of Nascimento from the crown. He and his admirable translator leave | ||
Witness – Alan Ramsay (Facilities Manager of Chelsea Harbour) | ||
Prosecution Counsel questions Alan Ramsay | ||
Prosecution call Alan Ramsay | ||
Ramsay was, in July 2011, the facilities manager of Chelsea Harbour – the Brooks’ London residence: he still holds that position | ||
Ramsay says he was contacted by his security officer late morning 18/07/11 bringing the two bags in question | ||
Ramsay said he inspected the bags to find some identifying document – found a cheque book for Mr and Mrs Brooks. | ||
Ramsay had been aware of police attendance the day before even though he wasn’t personally on duty | ||
Ramsay “I had to make a decision whether to contact the owner and return it… events of the day before made me think of contacting police” | ||
Ramsay tried to understand “if there is any rational explanation…” Cut short by Saunders. | ||
Ramsay secured the bags in the manager’s officers, and one of his officer inspected the CCTV. Neil Perkins, a porter, contacted him | ||
Perkins was accompanied by Charlie Brooks: Brooks said he’d lost a couple of bags to the facilities manager. | ||
C Brooks didn’t say where he’d lost the bags ‘initially.’ Brooks had heard the cleaner had handed them into Ramsay’s office. | ||
Ramsay took the detail and description of missing bags. He asked him where he lost them. Brooks: “they’d been place behind a bin…” | ||
Brooks claimed to Ramsay the bags were left there previous evening by a friend for him to pick up. | ||
Ramsay said he would investigate the matter. He then called the police. Police officer attended at 14.15 and Ramsay showed them the bags | ||
Bryant Heron for the prosecution asks about access to and from the underground car park at Chelsea Harbour: card system bar code reader | ||
Ramsay says access to the main building is by a fob system. | ||
Ramsay co-operated with DC Pritchard over the search of the rubbish compactor by disabling around 4pm on 18/07/11 | ||
Counsel for Charlie Brooks cross examines Alan Ramsay | ||
Saunders for Mr Brooks cross examines Ramsay, Chelsea Harbour facilities manager. The whole estate is covered by the car card system | ||
Ramsay was told the two bags had been in a black bin liner by the cleaner and his supervisor | ||
Ramsay did not make a note at the time of C Brooks’ statement, but he said “there’d been a mistake”: the bags had been left 8pm night before | ||
Ramsay agrees there are 130 different CCTV cameras in Chelsea Harbour: “Covers the principal pedestrian routes.” | ||
Saunders says to Ramsay “I think your CCTV coverage is the best I’ve ever seen”. That’s it for today. Back Monday. | ||
Next two days are taken with legal argument due to unavailability of a juror. |
Note: All the defendants deny all the charges. The trial continues.
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