Tuesday 1 April 2014
Summary | ||
The Cross Examination of Charlie Brooks by the Crown Continues | ||
Charlie Brooks questioned about his relationship with NI | ||
Searches and Police Interviews | ||
The events of the day of Rebekah Brooks arrest | ||
The Defence of Mark Hanna Begins | ||
William Clegg QC questions Mark Hanna on his background | ||
Hanna joins News International | ||
2011 Increased Security | ||
Security Activity of July 2011 | ||
Allegations of Burning Evidence | ||
DCMS Committee Hearing | ||
Enstone Security |
The Cross Examination of Charlie Brooks by the Crown Continues | ||
Charlie Brooks questioned about his relationship with NI | ||
Back at #hackingtrial Charlie Brooks is explaining the urgency of his book: Harper Collins were worried about Milly Dowler. | ||
Charlie Brooks says he was losing his head cover on the book: Harper Collins “would love to wash their hands of me and it” | ||
“All these thoughts occurred to you between the 15th and 17th (of July” asks Edis. Charlie “No this is just me being savvy of undercurrents” | ||
“But News Corp was being very supportive” says Edis. “Mr Murdoch didn’t want my wife to resign but other directors had a lot of clout” | ||
“She resigned on a very generous severance agreement… this is about there being any real danger of News Corp rejecting you” says Edis | ||
“I just got the impression he tolerated me” says Charlie of Harper Collins editor. He agrees there are no documents showing this | ||
“Have you made this up in order to explain your conduct?” asks Edis. “No I haven’t” says Charlie. | ||
“You were quite a trusted associate of News Corp…” says Edis. “It’s quite a family orientated company” says Charlie of the Murdochs. | ||
Charlie says he had a News International email address to synch his diaries. He doesn’t know who instructed Olswang. They were personal | ||
Charlie explains his conversation with Lewis and James Murdoch was before they spoke to Rebekah about resignation. | ||
Charlie Brooks explains his other business relations with News International – forming a betting exchange. | ||
Searches and Police Interviews | ||
“I’d done something very stupid and I stuck with it” says Charlie of hiding his bags. He says he had no concern about it | ||
Edis says he must have discovered what the police’s approach to the search would be during their search on the Sunday to News Int devices | ||
“Sounds a bit glib” says Charlie of watching Golf during search “but it was my way of blanking out what went on” | ||
“You’re a man of the world” says Edis. “Thankyou” says Charlie. “The idea you were shocked into a coma is idiotic’ says Edis. | ||
Edis says that the idea that Charlie couldn’t cope with the police interview is also unlikely. Charlie talks about stewing in the cells. | ||
Justice Saunders asks whether nature of the police search “affected his mind”. He says he felt he would be a fool not to take legal advice | ||
Charlie says he felt “ashamed at what he’d done to Mr Hanna… furious at myself, mortified at what I’d done to my wife” | ||
Charlie says he didn’t “blindly” take the lawyer’s advice. Justice Saunders asks if he doesn’t regret now doing a no comment interview | ||
Edis points out the warning about no comment interview “people might think you’ve made it up since…. gave you advantage of seeing records” | ||
“It gave you the chance to fit things up” says Edis. “Did you appreciate that if you kept your mouth shut you would be able to invent things | ||
Charlie says”I was pleased to have a wise lawyer give me counsel”. Edis: “That would be opportunity for honest man to make clean breast” | ||
“I would argue an innocent man is entitled to take legal advice” says Edis. | ||
Edis turns to a schedule after an object by Neil Saunders – to be discussed in the break. | ||
The events of the day of Rebekah Brooks arrest | ||
Edis turns to CCTV pictures from Thames Quay: particularly a call and text 17.24 from Mark Hanna after searches have finished 17/07/11 | ||
Charlie says this was probably about “bringing his stuff back”. Edis: “What were the arrangements made between the two of you” | ||
“You’re not drunk at this point” says Edis. “Mr Palmer arrives at ten minutes past six”. Edis turns to the texts between security. | ||
“Call Charlie as briefed” says Johnson to Jorsling. Jorsling then calls. Charlie can’t remember who precisely was bringing his stuff back. | ||
“It was all right to get hopelessly drunk” asks Edis. Charlie says some people do that under pressure. “I wasn’t falling about drunk” | ||
“She was incredibly wired and stressed… we sat and talked about what she’d been through that day” says Charlie. | ||
“You were in a state to have a perfectly amicable conversation with your wife” says Edis. Charlie says can remember some things. | ||
Charlie says the return of his belongings “as soon as the searches have finished” was a bit of a “coincidence”. | ||
20.24 calls on 17/07/11 – Charlie is texted by Hanna. He agrees this is probably about his stuff being brought back to him | ||
“The plan to bring stuff back was plainly in existence from this time” says Edis. “At some point… I don’t recall” says Charlie. | ||
“We had that conversation at some point” says Charlie of talking to Hanna about dropping back the bags. Charlie says he used Palmer’s phone | ||
Edis asks why Charlie was using Palmer’s phone: his was flat and “on the blink” “Bad for your brain charging phone near bed” he says. | ||
Charlie is going to get his iPhone recharged soon so he can check Palmer’s number on his flat phone | ||
Charlie says he was coherent at that point he spoke to Hanna. “I wasn’t hopelessly drunk at any point that night” says Charlie. | ||
“The one phone call I had with Jorsling is 15 seconds long” says Charlie but long enough to arrange drop off. | ||
“You actually didn’t ask for a Pizza on the phone” Edis. “Yes I did” says Charlie. “This is a time you knew police might still be interested | ||
“No lawyer ever suggested that might happen” says Edis of a second search. “Never thought your premises were under observation?” | ||
Charlie says he had no idea of surveillance or second searches. He also has no idea why Jorsling went to the underground carpark. | ||
Charlie says Jorsling must have got in “with a fob”. Edis says it’s “perfectly easy to get food delivered” | ||
21.30 call for 15 seconds cited along with CCTV footage of Jorsling arriving with a fob. | ||
Jorsling gets out of car using mobile phone on CCTV replay. | ||
CCTV of Jorsling taking black bag out of car and hiding behind bins shown to jury. | ||
Palmer seen on CCTV seen emerging into Car Park: “He does something peculiar with his arms” admits Charlie. He lets Jorsling out | ||
Jorsling has no fob to exist. “Those are two people doing what you told them to” says Edis. Charlie says Palmer was supposed to get property | ||
Charlie says he didn’t notice Palmer only brought back the pizzas, and not his bags. | ||
“When Mr Palmer comes up stairs, I’m focused on something else, probably Sky News” says Charlie. | ||
Charlie says he never knew the bags came back double bin-bagged from News International. He says this wasn’t planned. | ||
Charlie says he doesn’t know what the plan was. “I didn’t not discuss with Jorsling where to put bags… I didn’t give anyone instructions” | ||
Edis points out the bin bag was put exactly where Charlie left his bags previously. “Sounds vaguely the same place” says Charlie. | ||
“Sounds like very similiar to where I put Jiffy bag an Vaio” says Charlie but denies this location has anything to do with him. | ||
Edis turns to Charlie’s evidence that it wasn’t until the next day, when he left Kingsley Napley, that he thought he ought to get bags back | ||
Edis says “these bags were so important you hid them from police” but asks why it never occurred to Charlie until the next morning | ||
“By Monday morning I had the hangover from hell” says Charlie. “I appreciate it’s strange isn’t it… but that’s how it is” | ||
Charlie can’t remember how long at lawyers “I’ll go with his Lordship and say half an hour”. Saunders: “I’m going to regret saying anything” | ||
Edis asks Charlie whether he was in solicitors when he called Hanna. Edis says “during or before” appointment with solicitors. | ||
Charlie says that call would have been about security not his bags. In previous evidence he claimed he only thought of bags afterwards | ||
Charlie says he told Edwards to sort out bags. Call records show him talking to Jorsling before lawyers. | ||
Charlie says the thought he might be interviewed under caution until his stuff was confiscated by police. | ||
Charlie denies asking Paul Edwards to help him hide stuff. Charlie says he recognised Jorsling by this car, the Golf, | ||
Charlie says he recognised Jorsling because he’d spoken to him on the phone. “I knew who the man was… who could drop bags and pizzas” | ||
“The plan was to put them behind the rubbish bins in case the police came back” says Edis. Charlie “I didn’t think the police would be back” | ||
Charlie says there was nothing about coming out of Kingsley Napley that meant he could have his bags back – his memory was triggered. | ||
Edis asks why, if Jorsling was there, Johnson rang him. Charlie doesn’t know. | ||
Saunders has some more questions about Charlie’s initial discussion with Hanna “about looking after stuff in back of car” | ||
Charlie doesn’t remember giving any time limit to how long Hanna should keep his stuff. Surprised he brought it to Thames Quay | ||
Charlie says he told Hanna it was his stuff “because I thought there was a possibility of a police search. I didn’t know what he knew” | ||
20 mins break. | ||
Neil Saunders talks about disclosure on Palmer number before break | ||
The jury is still not present at #hackingtrial while certain legal issues are discussed. | ||
Justice Saunders explains to jury several documents had to be looked at and considered. Edis circulates a copy of Charlie’s Case Statement | ||
Jury back in at the #hackingtrial after a slightly discontinuous morning of cross examination of Charlie Brooks by Anthony Edis QC | ||
Edis asks Charlie Brooks about a paragraph “all items for custody returned on 18th July” Charlie says should be 17th July | ||
Charlie agrees he hadn’t put in his role in the return of the property. “You did a have a part in return of property” says Edis. | ||
Charlie agrees he spoke to Hanna, Jorsling and Palmer: “I’m not a lawyer so I don’t know how detailed defence statements should be” | ||
Edis says “the first time you’ve given this account is in the witness box”. A statement of 18/04/12 does mention fears of leaks to Guardian | ||
“It’s quite a long letter” says Charlie. He says the 18th date is probably a “typo”. | ||
Charlie talks about the “alcoholic aberration” and the 18th is an “error” | ||
“You credit me with too much thought” says Charlie to Justice Saunders about getting his briefcases back on Sunday 17/07/11 | ||
Edis shows jury a picture of some of Charlie’s phone records from that night re evidence of his “phone being flat at 8.38” and using Palmers | ||
Call evidence shows Charlie using his mobile to send a text at 8.38 | ||
Some discussion with Neil Saunders for Charlie Brooks: his spreadsheet is different to the one shown to jury | ||
At 9.30 Charlie is making and receiving calls including one for 5 mins: “Were you very drunk at that time?” asks Edis. | ||
“At some point that night I had drunk 3 bottles of wine. That might not be very much to you… I was referring to Mr Edis” says Charlie B | ||
Charlie says the two computers in the black bags accompanied him to London and Oxfordshire. | ||
“When the police went to Jubilee barn… they found no computers. Was that usual?” asks Edis. “Yes” says Charlie. | ||
Charlie says Brooks Blackberry was “welded to her ear” while he had his iPad. | ||
Charlie says this was not mentioned in his defence statement “because that was drawn up by lawyers, I don’t know what level of detail…” | ||
Charlie reiterates they were in a rush on the Sunday, and went to Jubilee Barn to get shoes for Rebekah. | ||
Charlie denies Jubilee Barn was emptied of electronic equipment. He denies he was trying to get rid of stuff “that could damage his wife” | ||
Charlie says he wasn’t aware of “great risk” – he was just “very stupid” | ||
Again, Charlie says Hanna said nothing when he asked him to look after his personal belongings on the day of Brooks’ arrest. | ||
“It’s not for me to speculate what Mr Hanna knew” says Brooks. “But you spoke to him on phone, you met him with Jiffy bag and computer” | ||
“I didn’t hand it over. I told him it was behind the bins” says Charlie of what he told Hanna after arrest. | ||
“Did he says anything?” asks Edis. “I honestly don’t remember him saying anything” says Charlie. | ||
“At that point you must have appreciated you were taking a risk… the only reason is to… achieve something important” says Edis. | ||
“Your motive was to protect your wife to whom you are extremely loyal” says Edis. “That is simply not true” says Charlie | ||
Charlie agrees he saw his defence statement before it was submitted. | ||
A paragraph says Charlie went back both days – the second to collect some shoes. | ||
Charlie Brook’s evidence is over. A brief reshuffle before the next case. | ||
Edis stands up: Charlie now can access Mr Palmer’s phone number. “Better get out quick” says Charlie before leaving witness box | ||
The Defence of Mark Hanna Begins | ||
William Clegg QC questions Mark Hanna on his background | ||
Now Mark Hanna takes the witness box at #hackingtrial, head of security at News International, questioned by his barriser, William Clegg QC | ||
Hanna stands accused on Count 7 of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice | ||
Hanna is 50 years old. His birthday is on Sunday: “Not that I’ll be celebrating but true.” He’s married but now separated. | ||
Before he separated from his wife he lived in Buckingham. No previous convictions. | ||
Hanna has three grown up children in their 20s and early 30s | ||
Hanna went to a secondary modern in Leicester, left at 16 with 7 CSEs at average grades, and then joined the army | ||
19/06/79 Hanna joined the Coldstream Guards as a Junior Guardsman. Clegg hands out documents dealing with his military career. | ||
“This is the date you take the Queen’s shilling, you take your oath” explains Hanna of joining the army. | ||
Hanna’s character and military conduct is described as ‘exemplary’ in official records. “Lance Sergeant Hanna served for 12 years” | ||
Hanna was a heavy goods driver in Royal Corps of transport, a machine gun section commander, and a military flautist | ||
Hanna explains Corp of Drums is a military unit, and the music is a sideline | ||
Hanna had two tours of Northern Ireland, and postings to Kenya, Japan | ||
Hanna saw active service in Northern Ireland in South Armagh: was in gunfights “three or four or five times” | ||
Hanna was also involved in the first Gulf War in 1991: his platoon was mentioned in dispatches. | ||
Hanna: “we found ourselves in a tricky situation (with Iraqi prisoners) ended up in a minefield, and had to protect them Geneva convention” | ||
Hanna’s was awarded Gulf War, Kuwait Liberation, Saudi Defence, and Northern Ireland medals by the time he left army in 1993 | ||
He turned to security industry for new career. Hanna worked for Reliance Security at ICI and Tower of London “physical protection” | ||
Tower of London involved perimeter security as well: Hanna was awarded a police medal for “apprehension of a robber” | ||
“Good natured and level headed man… uses his own initiative when required. He is honest” says army references on Hanna | ||
Back to Tower of London: “I noticed a lady was being robbed by two gentlemen” says Hanna. He apprehended one and held onto till police came | ||
Commendation for this arrest says Hanna provided a deterrent. DCI Jones from the Met wrote about how Hanna was injured in detaining robber | ||
DCI Jones commends Hanna’s bravery in detaining the robber, and for identifying the second of “two dangerous criminals” | ||
Hanna was awarded a Borough Commander’s Commendation for bravery, diligence and determination. | ||
Hanna then worked as a security contractor for Goldman Sachs till 2001: then joined Nomura Investment Banks after 2.5 years as contractor | ||
At Nomura Bank Hanna was made Head of Security. He liaised with City of London police and helped found L.I.S.T.E.N | ||
LISTEN gives security staff a forum to share intelligence ect. Now over 1300 members in 20 countries. Hanna was the founder of LISTEN | ||
Hanna joins News International | ||
Nomura was bought out by Leahmann Brothers, and in April 2009 Hanna joined NI as Head of Security under HR department initially | ||
In July Hanna was made Director of Group Security – same job but with a different title | ||
Daniel Cloke was Hanna’s line manager. Jane Viner replaced him – she’s already given evidence. | ||
When Hanna joined NI Brooks was editor of the Sun: he had no contact with her at that point in 2009 | ||
Hanna says he only got to meet Rebekah Brooks when she became CEO of News International. | ||
Hanna says he’d only met Brooks “two or three times” before the summer of July 2011. | ||
Hanna never met Coulson, Thurlbeck, Miskiw, Weatherup or Mulcaire. Lunch to 2.05 pm | ||
Back after lunch at #hackingtrial – Mark Hanna continuing with his evidence in chief on Count 7, questioned by his lawyer, William Clegg QC | ||
Clegg has a few more documents for the jury defence bundles. | ||
05/01/11 email to Hanna cited by Clegg about allegations of phone hacking and the suspension of NOTW journalist. | ||
Hanna was well aware of phone hacking allegations in press in January 2011: he was never asked to play any part in internal investigations | ||
Hanna emails his line manager Jane Viner 10/01/07 with his weekly report with outstanding issues | ||
This email shows Hanna’s activities for the week of February 2011: retrieval of recording device from the Sun – a dictaphone | ||
“Working with executives over NOTW interviews and police liaison” says email. Hanna says he was liaising the MSC and police | ||
Hanna says he had nothing to do with the selections for interview, or at the interview. He played no part in MSC investigation. | ||
On that same Feb email weekly report Hanna is shown vetting people a the Peterborough facility of NI. | ||
Email also mentions Fox journalists injured in riots in Cairo in February 2011: he helped get them to a hospital. | ||
Another task relates to Glasgow tenants at NI – Hanna had to give staff additional security advice, and liaising with police. | ||
Hanna says he regularly travelled to “all the locations around UK and Ireland” – Glasgow, Liverpool, Manchester, Broxbourne, Dublin | ||
Hanna says he travelled abroad “predominantly for a major sporting event” like the World Cup. | ||
Clegg describes Hanna’s other weekly security matters, leaks, loss of service, missing money at restaurants etc. | ||
The same email sets out anticipated security issues for Hanna for the next week in February 2011. | ||
09/06/11 weekly report cited by Clegg: “all matters that fall under your remit as Head of Security” | ||
Staff appraisals are included in the list: “They are staff who reported direct to me” says Hanna. | ||
One item deals with the visit of Rupert Murdoch in June 2011: he would check over and liaise with hosts of event. | ||
“When Mr Murdoch attended site… it was our responsibility to make sure his ingress and egress wasn’t hindered” says Mark Hanna | ||
Hanna attended regular Met Police briefings every month or six weeks or so | ||
Weekly report speaks of an alarm system for an editor Hanna can no longer remember. | ||
Email talks of low level thefts from Broxbourne. Hanna was responsible for the security of individual executives as well. | ||
Hanna says he would personally be involved in the security of executives depending on the level of risk “on a daily basis” | ||
Clegg asks his client Hanna about an “average day”: he’d drive in from Buckingham and arrive at 5.15 am, leaving 5pm arriving back 7pm | ||
“I was a bit of a workaholic” says Hanna. He worked every day of the week, including weekends. | ||
“I used to take work home most days” says Hanna. When the police searched his home, they found examples of that. | ||
“Predominantly I would take it back to the office” says Hanna of work taken home | ||
Hanna said the NI offices were swept for bugs regularly – but so too were the offices of his previous employer, Nomura Bank | ||
2011 Increased Security | ||
Back in January 2011 an email from Brooks to Will Lewis, cc’ed to Hanna: “Can we have my phones and office swept” | ||
Nothing unusual in this request from Brooks about sweeping offices, says Hanna. | ||
A full electronic sweep of 10th Floor, vehicles and NOTW interview rooms including ‘monitoring’ explained by Clegg for Hanna. | ||
“We never did” find any bugs explains Hanna to Justice Saunders. | ||
Hanna says there was a “perceived increase in security risk” in April 2011. | ||
Email from Hanna emails Viner about a ‘constant monitoring’ device in Brooks office in April 2011. Rooms are swept daily at this point | ||
Hanna explains a ‘White Room Device’ – is an alarm installed in the ceiling of an office, and monitors anyone turning on their phone | ||
Hanna explains he has a team working under him. He’s employed by News International now News UK. | ||
Hanna says he was responsible for two sites predominantly – 50 to 60 staff all subcontracted. | ||
At Wapping their duties were access and egress. At TMS more modern – low level sweeps and investigations. | ||
Hanna explains that at the old Wapping site they had finished producing the newspaper by 2011. Offices moved to Thomas More Square | ||
Hanna wasn’t involved in sale or refurbishing of Wapping: the two options either sale of land or renovation. | ||
Hanna says the plans to move from Wapping had been in place before 2009 – the move to TMS “a full time job in itself” | ||
Clegg asks Hanna about his company car: 27/06/11 a new Volvo was to be delivered on 5th July | ||
Clegg corrects himself: 04/07/11 the Volvo delivered to Wapping Car Park. He drove in with Wife’s Renault Clio: “rarely used the car” | ||
Hanna says he had his own parking bay, Number 77, at TMS. He parked his Clio in his bay 04/07/11 – he never used for next two weeks | ||
Hanna says he had no time to retrieve the Clio until the 17th July 2011. It remained in underground car park until then. | ||
For his new Volvo, Hanna used the visitor parking spots in TMS. Insurance was paid for by News International for “any company vehicle” | ||
Hanna says he was responsible for security for the whole board of NI – ten or twelve people. Some needed home security too | ||
A security survey was performed by Hanna at the Brooks’ London residence. First in 2009, then in April 2011. | ||
They do an ‘environmental check’ for crime and antisocial behaviour. Then the site itself. Liaising with ‘on site’ security – car parks | ||
Car Fobs, CCTV, panic alarms are also included in this home security review for execs. He also did two checks of Jubilee Barn in 09 and 11 | ||
Hanna took security manager from Wapping with him to Chelsea Harbour and the building’s house manager. | ||
These security surveys of Brooks’ London and Oxfordshire residences involved internal and external surveys. | ||
Hanna did follow up surveys in April 2011 after the arrests of three NOTW journalists. Hanna had to seal desks, liaise with MSC. | ||
“A member of security would go to desk” of arrested journalists says Hanna “and make sure no one approached… till MSC notified” | ||
Hanna says Jane Viner or Rebekah Brooks told him Brooks feared she could be arrested in April 2011. | ||
“This prompted the second survey of the property” says Hanna: “I believe Rebekah had been receiving emails… of not a very nice nature” | ||
These emails to Brooks were both abusive and threatening, says Hanna. This was authorised by Jane Viner, and Panuccio authorised payments | ||
Hanna explains “someone was located at Chelsea Harbour on a permanent”: this was subcontracted out to Will Geddes. | ||
Hanna says he’d known Geddes for eight years or so “on a professional basis” | ||
“Appropriate cover” was provided by Geddes: “A static team at Chelsea Harbour and when Rebekah on move…. mobile protection” | ||
Hanna talks of second review with Will Geddes of Chelsea Harbour in April 2011: 24 hours a day 7 days a week surveillance initially | ||
This new review was “predominantly looking at it externally” says Hanna of Chelsea Harbour. Charlie met Geddes to approve level of cover | ||
Hanna had met Charlie Brooks before in 2009: “a lot of people were busy” in 2011 “we tended to liaise with Charlie for security” | ||
In the end the cover in April only last 2 or 3 days: Hanna was ‘stood down’ | ||
In April 2011 says there was a plan to deal with Brooks’ arrest. The security team should liaise with police about avoiding photographs | ||
Hanna agrees this liaison would have to be ad hoc since they wouldn’t get prior notification of Brooks’ arrest in April 2011. | ||
By the run up to July 2011, Hanna’s workload “increased dramatically” he says. He had help from Geddes’ team – but no one else. | ||
In the run up to July 2011 Hanna says he was working 15 hours a day. | ||
04/07/11 the day Milly Dowler story broke “the security concern was heightened quite considerably” says Hanna, Head of NI security | ||
Email from Hanna 05/07/11 “Rebekah Brooks has been personally targeted…. risk to business and staff increased dramatically” | ||
Hanna convinced on 05/07/11 security would increase for days if not weeks. Tells staff to be less ‘trusting’: “We are here to protect” | ||
“We are ready to do what it legally takes” says Hanna email to security management at NI on the morning Milly Dolwer story published | ||
By this time, Hanna had seen evidence of the targeting of Brooks. He was sure security concern would “continue to increase” | ||
Other executives needed to up their security, says Hanna. Other sites in the UK needed more security in July 2011 | ||
Brooks security was reviewed at this point, says Hanna, approved by Viner and Pannuccio. They re-employed Will Geddes at ICP | ||
ICP provided static security for Brooks at Chelsea Harbour: mobile security – an Apollo Car – was employed for mobile security | ||
Hanna says that security at Jubilee Barn “not very long” after the Milly Dowler story. | ||
“The increase in mail towards Rebekah, News International, James and Rupert Murdoch… stuff online…” raised the threat says Hanna. | ||
The hate mail spiked when allegations that war veterans wives had been hacked. Other executives also given security. | ||
Brooks driver was employed by News Int: lead car and follow cars for her protection provided by ICP. Hanna never drove Brooks. | ||
Hanna never drove the lead or follow cars he tells the jury (not Apollo cars as in previous tweet) | ||
“Naturally they reported to Will Geddes” says Hanna: they’d get all the shift changes of the security staff. | ||
Security Activity of July 2011 | ||
Clegg cites a 05/07/11 email that has been so often cited “we’ve committed it all to memory” mentioning “police concern” for Brooks | ||
Email talks about previous security plan, with teams being in underground car park so Brooks could exit that way if arrested. | ||
Hanna says Brooks’ arrest was again a “possibility” on 05/07/11. On the 07/07/11 Hanna emails Viner about Brooks and photographers. | ||
07/07/11 email from Hanna talks about dead soldier’s families being hacked. | ||
Viner agree with Hanna’s advice: “But you’ll need Rebekah’s OK even if through Charlie” in 07/07/11 email | ||
Hanna explains that “Rebekah was very busy…. she requested we go through Charlie….” They could keep some of the threats away from her | ||
08/07/11 Hanna emails Viner about ‘weekend pack’ – he worked day and evening the whole coming weekend. | ||
Clegg cites a “great wodge of abusive and threatening correspondence” recovered by police from Hanna’s house. | ||
Hanna says he was analysing this hate mail to look for ‘patterns’. | ||
“A lot of the mail was quite clearly offensive from comments on the envelopes” says Hanna of post room identifying hate mail | ||
Hate mail intercepted at post room would be handed to Hanna to examine personally. Some letters got through to executives floor. | ||
Hate mail that got through to executive floor would either be handed to security, or they would go down to collect. | ||
Jury shown letters referred on to Hanna by Brooks’ PA Cheryl Carter. | ||
“A very different document caught up with abusive correspondence” says Clegg. Some claim by Diego Maradona mentioned. | ||
“Some mention of football to come later” says Clegg. “Look forward to that,” says Justice Saunders. Five minute break. | ||
Clegg resumes on the subject of youtube and twitter threats against NI in July 2011 | ||
Sky TV Head of Security was in contact with Hanna about ‘online threats’ and someone called “Chunky Mark” and offensive interest in NI | ||
“He has a history of dangerous stunts” says Sky TV Head of Security about Chunky Mark, relating history of protests and YouTubes | ||
“He describes himself as a ‘performance artist’ whatever that may be” says Clegg, who then cites several ‘Twitters’ by Chunky Mark | ||
Clegg asks how “seriously” had to take these threats: “In my opinion very seriously” says Hanna of social media. | ||
Clegg moves onto the closure of News of the World: Hanna was at nephew’s birthday party the afternoon of 07/07/11 when Viner called | ||
Until that moment on 07/07/11 says Hanna he had “no idea” about the closure of NOTW: drove back and met Jane Viner | ||
Jane Viner told Hanna she was liaising with MSC about the plan for the closure of NOTW. | ||
Hanna says he had no plans to travel to London that evening: he spent the night of 07/07/11 at a hotel in London. | ||
Media interest around Thomas More Square went “haywire” Hanna says after NOTW closure announced. | ||
Clegg cites a handover report from a security shift at TMS explaining the ‘media presence’ around NI sites. | ||
NI Head of Security, Mark Hanna, says media presence around Wapping remained high for that day and whole weekend. | ||
“Probably greater on the Friday when it was announced Rebekah had resigned” says Hanna of media presence outside TMS | ||
“10-15 photographers almost blocking the road…. a multitude of cameras and journalists” says Hanna of media outside TMS. | ||
Hanna laughs wryly when he says he didn’t “get the weekend off”. He was at TMS when the last edition of NOTW put to bed. | ||
Hanna spent a third night in a hotel near Wapping. | ||
Allegations of Burning Evidence | ||
Hanna is asked about Robert Hernandez, who said in previous evidence Hanna made a confession of “criminal offences” before NOTW closure. | ||
“The prosecution case is that you are a man of bad character… because you burnt incriminating property in your home” says Clegg | ||
BREAKING: Hanna says he ‘never’ burnt anything incriminating or not from News International at his home | ||
Hanna says he would never be given such incriminating material. He says he never told Robert Hernandez he burnt material. | ||
Hanna says he never told Hernandez that he dug a hole and lit a file. He was a junior member of the security service, says Hanna. | ||
“Certainly not” says Hanna over regarding Hernandez as someone he would confide in or confess to. | ||
Hanna says he does light fires at his home, but he never digs holes, nor uses it to “burn property of his employer” | ||
Clegg goes through some photographs found on his external harddrive. Each photograph is timestamped. A narrative has been put on to describe | ||
Photos of firepit shown to jury with Hanna’s foot in it. He had a fire at home “once or twice a week”. Photo shown of back of Hanna’s house | ||
The fire pit is in crazy paving section of Hanna’s garden – “no need to dig a hole” says Clegg. Feb 2011 photo shown of incinerator | ||
Following year, the incinerator in Hanna’s garden has a lid on it, Clegg says to the jury, showing them photos. | ||
General George Jenkins also appears in photo and Hanna says “the woodshed I was very proud of” | ||
More photo of Hanna’s garden shown to jury: and “a gentleman with a glass of wine” | ||
Clegg represents the prosecution case he burnt material before closure of NOTW. No truth in this allegation says Hanna. | ||
Hanna says he did drink one bottle of wine when with Hernandez “Quite modest by some standards” jokes his counsel William Clegg QC. | ||
Hanna went back to work that night after drinking with Hernandez: he was “pretty tired by this point”. He was looking forward to a holiday | ||
DCMS Committee Hearing | ||
On 13/07/11 Hanna learned about Brooks appearing before the DCMS committee: “a big security concern for us” he says. | ||
Hanna’s holiday plans didn’t last long, he tells the jury at the #hackingtrial He had choice but to cancel his holiday | ||
Hanna points out there were lots of accusations and threats going round, both outside and inside NI, after NOTW was closed. | ||
The security threat increased because people would know where Rebekah Brooks was for the DCMS committee. | ||
“On the Tuesday she was going to be particularly exposed” says Clegg and refers to “Mr Rupert Murdoch got a custard pie in his face” | ||
“The custard could be replaced with anything” says Hanna of pie attack on Rupert Murdoch. They had security in Parliament, but not him | ||
“Unfortunately Mr Jagger chose the best time to take a holiday” says Hanna of his deputy’s absence the following week. | ||
Hanna explains it was his responsibility to secure NOTW equipment for the police. He didn’t go home till Sunday 10/07/11 returning next day | ||
Hanna became aware the Brooks would spend the next weekend at Enstone around 13/07/11 – same time he was told of DCMS committee | ||
Enstone Security | ||
Hanna agrees Enstone was “another security nightmare”. He had to go and survey the property, and had to hire additional security. | ||
On 14/07/07 Hanna visited Enstone in the afternoon, to meet estate manager – he may have met owner on that day. | ||
“It needed a lot more security than I could provide” says Hanna of Enstone Manor. He proposed ICP followers, White Rock and himself there. | ||
Hanna says there were four from ICP on different shifts at Enstone on static shifts to vet people approaching – one access point. | ||
Hanna explains White Rock employee – Jevan Halley – to provide an initial sweep of Enstone, and monitoring any “unwanted interception” | ||
Hanna attended Enstone with another NI employee “to patrol the perimeter of the property” – an hour to walk around the property. | ||
“What would we do without Google Earth” says Justice Saunders of maps of Enstone. | ||
Jury shown photos of Enstone Manor buildings and lake. | ||
Geddes team was stationed at entrance of Enstone Manor onto the A44 (which apparently has changed name according to Justice Saunders) | ||
“By strange quirky by-laws there was a public right of way straight through the property” says Hanna of Enstone. | ||
Hanna understood that weekend, as shown in email, that the Brooks’ would be at Enstone until the Monday. | ||
Hanna returned to Enstone on Friday 15/07/11 and spent the next night there. On the Friday night he patrolled the perimeter. | ||
Lee Sandell, from Advance Security, a regular at NI, patrolled the perimeter with Hanna. He got a lift down in Hanna’s Volvo. | ||
Hanna didn’t see Charlie arrive that night, but he did see Rebekah – so they arrived separately. Hanna had been up since 4 am without sleep | ||
Hanna stayed in a room called the boathouse the first night – didn’t get much sleep on the Friday. | ||
Will Geddes arrived on the Saturday to help Hanna with security on external patrols – so Hanna got about 4 or 5 hours sleep. | ||
On the Saturday 17/07/11 he saw Charlie about mid day as he returned from somewhere in his range rover, but not Rebekah Brooks. | ||
In Charlie Brooks car there were bottles of wine for a ‘dinner party’ for those helping out with “mock select committee” says Hanna | ||
Initially, Hanna says, he vetted the Enstone Manor guests for false select committee, calling Charlie, then handed over to security staff | ||
The party had broken up – maybe one or two left – by the time Hanna retired for bed “in more comfortable accommodation” on the Saturday | ||
Break till tomorrow morning at 10 am. |
Note: All the defendants deny all the charges. The trial continues.
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