Thursday 13 March 2014
Summary | ||
Rebekah Brooks Case continues with Defence Witnesses | ||
Defence Witnesses Annette Witheridge – Former NOTW Journalist | ||
Prosecution Cross Examines Annette Witheridge | ||
Defence Witnesses Deborah Weir – Rebekah Brooks’ Mother | ||
Prosecution Cross Examines Deborah Weir | ||
Defence Witnesses Statement Eve Carlton Giles – Partner at Kingsley Napley | ||
Defence Witness of Character Statement – Claire Formby | ||
Defence Witness of Character Statement – Peter Greengross | ||
Defence Witness of Character Statement – Francie Clarkson | ||
The Defence of Clive Goodman Begins | ||
Clive Goodman’s Defence Case proceeds that of Andy Coulson | ||
David Spens QC Opens Clive Goodman’s Defense Case | ||
Goodman’s Career at News of the World | ||
Count 2 – The Purchase of Royal Internal Telephone Directories |
Rebekah Brooks Case continues with Defence Witnesses | ||
Defence Witnesses Annette Witheridge – Former NOTW Journalist | ||
Jonathan Laidlaw QC, counsel for Rebekah Brooks calls two witnesses: first is Annette Witheridge | ||
Witheridge takes the oath. She is a journalist from the Midlands, and then moved to London, worked at the News of the World 87-94 | ||
Witheridge worked on both features and news at NOTW: she moved to New York in 1994 | ||
Witheridge first met Greg Miskiw when he worked at the People/Mirror and then he came to NOTW. | ||
Witheridge freelanced for NOTW: “many times Greg would commission me” she says of Miskiw. | ||
Witheridge says she would talk to Thurlbeck and work on stories. She’s known Clive Goodman for many years too. | ||
Witheridge says she was friends with Clive Goodman “we’ve known each other a long time” | ||
Laidlaw cites an NOTW article 02/06/02 about McCartney Mills dispute | ||
“As everyone, indeed the world knows, this case is about allegations of phone hacking,” says Laidlaw, asking Witheridge about her knowledge | ||
“I’d never heard of it,” says Witheridge of phone hacking in 2002. “I’d never heard of the possibility you could hack phone messages” | ||
Witheridge says the first time she ever heard of phone hacking was when Cive Goodman was arrested. | ||
Witheridge says her and Brooks “were colleagues briefly in London. I was in the news room. Rebekah would have been in feature department” | ||
“We have mutual friends,” says Witheridge of Brooks. She’s had no professional or social contact with Brooks since 2002 | ||
Laidlaw says that it’s been suggested the source of this story was a “phone hack”. Witheridge says the police phone her up about it. | ||
Witheridge says the police contacted her in July 2012 via a managing editor that DC Andrea Fletcher wanted to talk to her. She called back | ||
Witheridge said the Weeting detective was interested in the McCartney Mills story. They provided a copy of the story. | ||
Witheridge says she wasn’t asked for a formal witness statement until December 2013 – after DC Fletcher gave evidence 02/12/13 | ||
“Quite vivid” says Witheridge of her memory of this story: “I got on a plane and travelled to Miami. After Sept 11…. it was quite nice” | ||
“At last I’m going to Miami and do a celebrity story” says Witheridge of the McCartney article. She’d been reporting before 9/11 victims | ||
“Someone at the night desk said there was a tip off from a man in Florida, his wife worked in a beauty salon,” says Witheridge. | ||
“They said ‘we’ve got a story’ would they be interested..” says Witheridge. Wife at hotel had told husband who phone news orgs to sell story | ||
Witheridge “I was given the man’s number, I would have certainly called him before I left. Can we have lunch… I’m wearing these clothers” | ||
Witheridge says she only keeps her notebooks for seven years: Saunders says Witheridge doesn’t have to name source. She’s forgotten anyway | ||
Witheridge met source in shopping mall outside the hotel in Miami. | ||
Witheridge has “no recollection” of negotiating the deal: she thinks that had been agreed in advance with NOTW night desk. | ||
The met in a restaurant called the Cheesecake Factory, Witheridge says of her source. | ||
Witheridge ‘seems to recall’ a conversation about how the source got to the News of the World. | ||
“The source was his wife who works at the Beauty Salon…. the fight was the talk of the hotel,” says Witheridge. “She wouldn’t go on record | ||
Witheridge says he provided names of manager who flew back to UK with the ring, the security guard that found it. | ||
Witheridge says she didn’t meet the wife. Instead she spoke security guard and get a quote. “The manager didn’t particularly want to talk” | ||
Witheridge met a security guard who happened to be beneath the hotel window when McCartney threw the ring out. | ||
A photographer flew down to Miami the next day to meet Witheridge and take snaps of the hotel. | ||
Laidlaw asks how much of the NOTW would have been written by her. “I would have written the story…. first half…. all the quotes…” | ||
Witheridge says the bottom last column “would be background added in London”. Louise Osborne, a staffer in London, credited on by line. | ||
Witheridge says she would have charged about $800 plus expenses: taxis, flights, hotel, dinners – estimates $2.5k. | ||
Laidlaw cites Macca Ring Story Txt payments and expenses to Big Apple – Witheridge’s company at the time | ||
Sharon Sweeney was the freelance photographer sent down to cover the Macca rings story. | ||
Prosecution Cross Examines Annette Witheridge | ||
Edis cross examines: establishes the fees to Witheridge and Shannon, but no one knows who Samantha Edri is who was also paid about £2k | ||
Total cost of the story was about £6k. Edis: “You never met anyone called Samantha Edri in relation to this story?” Witheridge: “No” | ||
Edis asks about Witheridge’s recollection of conversation with night editor: “It’s not great. It was 12 years ago”. | ||
Witheridge says she’s always interested how foreigners would contact British newspapers. “I believe he said he called the National Inquirer” | ||
Witheridge says there were free phones to call NI and the Mirror. National Inquirer told source to call the NOTW. | ||
The night news editor at NOTW “wasn’t someone I knew” says Witheridge. | ||
Witheridge says she “would have copied him into overnight memo” for the Macca rings story commission | ||
Witheridge confirms that she could stand the story up with plenty of sources. Edis finishes. Saunders than Annette Witheridge | ||
Defence Witnesses Deborah Weir – Rebekah Brooks’ Mother | ||
Laidlaw calls Rebekah Brooks‘ mother – Deborah Weir | ||
Weir takes the oath. “I’m not going to ask you anything about Rebekah, or your feelings about the trial,” says Laidlaw. | ||
Laidlaw says he wants to focus on “two or three topics” in the lead up to Brooks’ address. | ||
Weir has copies of texts and emails and a statement she made to Angus McBride, Brooks’ Kingsley Napley lawyer. | ||
04/07/11 is the first date for a document for Weir, Brooks’ mother: the day the Milly Dowler story broke in the Guardian | ||
Laidlaw points out that Brooks was at an IVF clinic that day. | ||
Weir was living in a farmhouse in Cheshire at that time in 2011. | ||
Weir confirms she knows Cheryl Carter. | ||
Weir calls Cheryl “CC” – she’d know her ever since Carter worked for Brooks: “We became great friends…” | ||
Weir says she’d see Cheryl Carter in London: “I didn’t see her a lot. I talked to her a lot… on the phone.” | ||
Weir saw Carter a couple times in Cheshire when Brooks was absent. | ||
04/07/11 texts show Weir calling Brooks “Becky” and arranging meeting at IVF clinic. | ||
Weir says the IVF appointment last about an hour. She recalls the breaking story of Milly Dowler that night. | ||
“Going to bed. News so awful” Laidlaw notes of this texts between Brooks and her mother over Milly Dowler. | ||
“Please don’t watch the news, mum” says one Brooks text from this period. Weir says it was “not easy” to get hold of her. | ||
We’re now on 06/07/11 with more texts between Rebekah Brooks and her mother Deborah Weir. | ||
Weir offers to come down to London to support Brooks in this week in July 2011. | ||
Weir says she was always up early “because of the cattle”: Laidlaw cites another email from the 08/07/11 about coming down to London. | ||
Weir talks about her cattle farm, and how she needed to get her cow nuts from Gibson’s Mill | ||
“A little breath of country in the mists of London,” says Saunders of Weir’s farm. | ||
Weir explains that she normally leaves after milking when she travels down to London: got to Jubilee Barn around lunchtime. | ||
Weir thinks Brooks came home in the evening the night NOTW was shut: “I think it would be late… can’t remember… in the evening” | ||
Laidlaw turns to the Sunday 10/07/11 “for reasons the jury understand an important day”: Weir says they left that morning. | ||
“I have dealt with this with Angus” says Weir of McBride, and the Brooks’ departure “To see Mr Murdoch… could have been James” | ||
Weir says that Cheryl Carter and her husband Geoff came to lunch that day. | ||
“I am 70” says Weir of not understanding Laidlaw’s question. Saunders jokes “I’m not that old” but he doesn’t understand it either. Laughter | ||
Weir made Mr and Mrs Carter lunch: “the only thing she brought… was jam or marmalade for David. May have brought biscuits” | ||
“Did she bring any boxes?” asks Laidlaw show pictures of archive boxes. “Anything like this?” Weir: “Certainly not. Not at all” | ||
More texts and emails between Brooks and her mother cited. “You looked well on TV with Mr M” – Weir means Rupert Murdoch | ||
Weir text talks of Brooks helping up a journalist who had been jostled by media coverage of her and Murdoch 10/07/11 | ||
Weir had tea in bed, and stopped for hot chocolate on the way back to Cheshire on 11/07/11 | ||
Brooks texts back to her mother on that Monday “Don’t look at the papers or watch the TV” | ||
No, Weir must still be Oxfordshire. She cooks Charlie’s breakfast on the Wednesday. A driver picked her up and took Weir to Euston. | ||
Weir remembers Brooks’ resignation on 15/07/11: she was planning to go back down to Oxfordshire. | ||
“I didn’t want her to resign” says Weir of her daughter that week. “I must have been asked to go, because I knew what would happen” | ||
“They wanted me there for a delivery” says Weir. She was shocked at the resignation. Charlie telephoned her to explain. | ||
Weir explains that Enstone Manor is only about 20 mins away from Jubilee Barn by car. | ||
Weir came down to Oxfordshire on 16/07/11 – stayed with Charlie’s mother. She didn’t see Brooks that weekend. “She was busy” Weir was told | ||
Weir says: “I think Jeremy Clarkson called a some point” during that weekend. She describes journalists at the top of the drive. | ||
Weir says she saw Brooks at Enstone on the day of her arrest 17/07/11: Charlie called on Brooks’ phone. | ||
Weir followed Charlie to Enstone Manor in her jeep. Brooks was having a bath. Weir was upset. Muhammad didn’t know how to work cooker | ||
Mark Hanna helped Weir cook breakfast that morning at Enstone Manor. | ||
Hanna accompanies Weir back to Jubilee Barn that morning. | ||
A lawyer was waiting a Jubilee Barn says Weir: “I was told police were going to come at 10 am that morning, they came at five” | ||
William Clegg QC, counsel for Hanna, has some questions for Weir about Hanna’s “cooking the bacon” that morning | ||
“He put the bacon in a frying pan and squashed it with a spatula” explains Weir of Hanna. She’d never met him before. | ||
Weir didn’t realise Hanna was in charge of all the security, she tells Clegg. “I was quite upset,” says Weir. | ||
Weir thinks Hanna was alone in his car, driving ahead. She can’t recall if there was another car. “There could have been. Didn’t notice it” | ||
Weir says Hanna never went the whole way to the Barn with her. “No one came to the building only myself”. | ||
Prosecution Cross Examines Deborah Weir | ||
Edis for the prosecution has some questions for Weir over 10/07/11 driving herself in her own car down to Oxfordshire with her dog Tommy. | ||
“I was on my own… unless Hazel was with me” says Weir. Edis: “Do you remember that day?” Weir: “Hazel could have been with me” | ||
Edis moves onto the Sunday 10/07/11: Weir says she didn’t know Cheryl was coming. Never visited at Jubilee Barn before | ||
Weir confirms Carter arrived ‘unannounced’: Weir knew Geoff Carter and went to Mr Carter’s 40th birthday. | ||
Weir can remember Carter putting her arms round her. She can’t remember if anyone else for lunch “we did have people popping in” | ||
Weir is shown an extract from Brooks’ Blackberry with emails. 12.23 message from Carter says “Having lunch with Deborah and Hazel” | ||
Weir says she thinks Carter stayed for an hour/hour and a half. Weir says she’s never been to Carter’s home. | ||
Edis asks Weir of Carter: “how do you know she didn’t bring anything”. “I would have seen her come into the barn” says Weir. | ||
“Did she have any notebooks with beauty clippings in them?” asks Edis. Weir: “No I don’t remember that” | ||
Weir tells Edis she’d been to Enstone Manor before with the doctor, Muhammad. She’d been visiting the area since 2007 | ||
“So you know the area well?” asks Edis. “Not particularly well… I went the same way to the Barn” says Weir, who has been driving 50 years | ||
“Have you ever driven to Enstone, it’s not easy at all to find” says Weir | ||
Weir says she goes the farm shop and Chipping Norton when she stays at Jubilee Barn. | ||
“You didn’t need any help in finding Jubilee Barn did you” says Edis of following Hanna back. “I wanted to get back quickly to see police” | ||
“I didn’t think twice actually. I don’t think you understand how I was feeling my daughter had just been arrested” Weir says. | ||
“You were able to drive yourself and you knew the way” says Edis. “Were there more than one car driving along the driveway?” | ||
“I can’t believe you’re asking me this” Weir protests. Saunders intervenes and asks Weir if she remembers. | ||
Edis: “How far do you say Mark Hanna went down the driveway to Jubilee Barn” Weir replies: “Half a mile to where the road divides” | ||
Weir says there were vehicles she thought were press, and one security van. | ||
“Did you pass him” Edis asks of Hanna. “I must have done because he was in front of him,” says Weir. | ||
“It was quite traumatic for me as well as Rebekah” says Weir of that Sunday Brooks was arrested. | ||
Weir thinks it was probably Charlie who told her police would be coming. Lawyer introduced himself to her when she returned. | ||
“Mark Hanna wasn’t there to give you moral support because he didn’t talk to you,” says Edis. “No he wasn’t” says Weir. | ||
“I haven’t got a lasting memory of him” says Weir of Hanna, “I got out to meet the solicitor at Jubilee Barn.” | ||
Edis says he has no questions about the first page of texts. But on the second page, when Weir is making arrangements to come down on 9th. | ||
Weir confirms Brooks left around 11.45 to meet James and Rupert Murdoch on 10/07/11. Another text 13.54 saying Carter just gone. | ||
Weir thinks Carter and her husband arrived about noon. | ||
Weir explains the topography of Jubilee and Castle Barn – the latter where Charlie’s mother lives – who “popped in and out all the time” | ||
14/07/11 around 4.30 Carter emails Weir about delivery of furniture to barn on Saturday and “IT boys” on the Monday. | ||
“They wouldn’t send the IT boys when I was there. I wouldn’t understand it” says Weir. Edis “You wouldn’t need to understand to let them in” | ||
Weir says she thinks the furniture was from Rebekah’s office and it never came because she wasn’t allowed to move it. | ||
Edis asks if the mention in Weir’s text “they could pay” for the office” “Nothing to do with News International” Weir says. | ||
“I very rarely asked Rebekah about the paper in all the years she was there. I just wanted her to be happy and well,” says Weir | ||
Edis ends his cross examination. No further questions. Junior Counsel for Brooks is going to read some statements, says Laidlaw. | ||
Defence Witnesses Statement Eve Carlton Giles – Partner at Kingsley Napley | ||
Witness statement of Eve Carlton Giles read out before the jury: a 7 page statement. | ||
This is from a partner at Kingsley Napley who acts on Operation Elveden since end of Jan 2013. | ||
This lawyer has produced documents on Sun articles on armed forces for the defence jury bundles. | ||
This statement effectively explains the methodology of defence jury bundles. | ||
Defence Witness of Character Statement – Claire Formby | ||
Three witnesses of character to be read to the jury for Rebekah Brooks. | ||
Claire Formby is the first character witness: from fashion Brand ‘Me and M’: met Brooks 9 years ago. Many holidays, book club. | ||
Formby talks about the first time she met Brooks: “editor of Sun so could only be an awful person… but I was wrong” | ||
“I went from being intimidate to being totally at ease” writes Formby of her qualities of humour, warmth, and “strong family values” | ||
“If ever I should find myself in trouble Rebekah would be the first person I would turn to” concludes Formby. | ||
Defence Witness of Character Statement – Peter Greengross | ||
Peter Greengross, a fellow of RCS, writes of knowing Brooks for six years. | ||
Greengross says when he first met Rebekah he did not know who she was: she never told him until asked. Great with his two kids. | ||
“Contrary to the usual stereotype of tabloid editor… someone who would never hurt anyone… fiercely intelligent, compassionate” | ||
Defence Witness of Character Statement – Francie Clarkson | ||
Francie Clarkson, who has managed her husband’s media career for 20 years, has written a character reference. First met when Brooks NOTW. | ||
Clarkson remembers Brooks concern for McCann’s and Sarah’s Law: co-founder of Help for Heroes with the Sun’s support for wounded soldiers | ||
Francie Clarkson also writes of Brooks “she is the most loyal, kind and trusted person I’ve ever met” | ||
Break till 2pm Saunders tells the jury “when we’ll move onto someone else’s case” | ||
The Defence of Clive Goodman Begins | ||
Clive Goodman’s Defence Case proceeds that of Andy Coulson | ||
Back at the #hackingtrial after the lunch break with a new defendant about to go into the witness box. | ||
BREAKING: Justice Saunders explains to the jury there’s been a change in the order of defendants. Clive Goodman precedes Coulson | ||
Saunders says it’s in the “interests of justice” that Goodman precedes Coulson because he may be asked about phone hacking. | ||
Saunders says that it is his decision not Mr Goodman’s to put him before Coulson. | ||
David Spens QC Opens Clive Goodman’s Defense Case | ||
Clive Goodman, former Royal Reporter for NOTW, takes the oath. He’s not been in the best of health explains Saunders. | ||
David Spens QC questions his client Clive Goodman. | ||
Goodman has had an operation to correct an irregular heartbeat, and still has hypertension. He’s had an operation for a cataract in his eye. | ||
Saunders asks Spens to keep some gaps in his questions and answers. | ||
Goodman explains he got married on June 10 2006 in his second marriage: he has a 9 year old daughter from second marriage. | ||
Goodman’s wife works in the city, she’s effectively the sole bread winner. | ||
Goodman explains his first wife left the household in November 2001, He met his second wife to be in 2002 | ||
The decree absolute and financial settlement of first marriage was in 2003. | ||
Goodman left school at 18, went into Kentish Times a series of newspapers in Kent. Saunders asks Goodman to keep his voice up | ||
Goodman was trained for 2 years 1977-79. Then he freelanced, some casual work around Fleet St. | ||
Goodman’s Career at News of the World | ||
Goodman joined Daily Mail in 1985 on Old Fleet Street: worked with Nigel Dempster for a year. Then offered job at NOTW with them Royal Ed. | ||
He started at NOTW at Wapping in 1986 on a salary of £26k | ||
Goodman became Royal Editor in 2000. | ||
Spens goes back to the death of Diana in 1997 and the ages of Harry and William at the time. | ||
Goodman says “almost instantly” the media made an agreement not to follow the Royal Princes until they’d finished full time education. | ||
Goodman says this restriction applied until Prince William went to Sandhurst in 2006. Prince Harry went there in 2005 | ||
“It had a very depressive effect on Royal Reporting…” says Goodman: “All we were left to write about was Camilla and Charles.” | ||
Goodman went to conferences at NOTW while he was Royal Editor. Promoted in 2001 by Rebekah Brooks as Assistant Editor. | ||
Goodman says he was working directly to the editor then, and not to the news desk. He attended conferences. His work filed thru newsdesk | ||
“The News desk couldn’t tell you what to do?” asks Spens. “No,” says Goodman, | ||
Spens has a bundle for the jury with samples of Goodman’s work. “Just the one bundle,” asks Saunders. “Yes, mercifully” says Spens. | ||
This bundle has an index, explains David Spens QC for Goodman to the jury. | ||
Jury shown the last edition of News of the World – it says it’s been running for 168 years. In the supplement are the top 48 stories | ||
Four of these top 48 stories from commemorative News of the World are attributable to Goodman | ||
Camilla, the death of Princess Margaret and the Queen Mother are among these top four stories authored by Goodman. | ||
14/01/03 Andy Coulson appointed editor of NOTW. Another journalist is mentioned who arrived after Coulson. | ||
For legal reasons I can’t name this NOTW journalist “who didn’t like” Goodman: “aggressive”. “I found my position further down graded” | ||
“In conferences the pecking order is quite important” Goodman had been 4th or 5th but then was put “behind Jamie Oliver recipes” if at all | ||
Goodman explained that he was “further demoted… at the beck and call of the news desk” around 01/07/05 | ||
Goodman kept his title as assistant editor – but stories now in gift of news editor “I had not control whatsoever… no court of appeal” | ||
01/11/05 Goodman was further demoted. “There was a row in the office. I’d been due to go to America to follow Charles and Parker Bowles” | ||
Goodman says he was accredited to go on the US trip but asked to be excused as his wife had an urgent business trip. | ||
Coulson was “quite cross. Told me I was off the trip. Appointed another NOTW journalist Royal Reporter” says Goodman. | ||
“Shortly after… the news editor told me (new reporter) would be responsible for young royals…. quite a massive chunk of my reporting” | ||
Goodman talks of another NOTW journalist who went over to another Sunday and then returned with a promotion. | ||
Goodman then had to report directly to this NOTW journalist who returned. | ||
Goodman describes this NOTW journalist as “very aggressive and a bully… stories were never good enough… they just withered and died” | ||
“He had a conference on a Tuesday morning, and he dressed me down ‘there’s got to be a bigger story” says Goodman. | ||
Goodman got on with Brooks “very well” when she was NOTW editor: they worked together on a story of Prince Harry smoking cannabis | ||
Goodman says Brooks “wasn’t very interested in getting into feuds and spats” | ||
Goodman and Coulson had joint friend called Chris Blythe: he died and memorial service brought them together: went to each other’s weddings | ||
Goodman says apart from “events to do with death of Chris” he and Coulson didn’t really socialise. | ||
Goodman says Coulson became “aggressive and bullying” when he became editor “forever being berated for lack of quality of my stories” | ||
“These things sound quite petty, but they were meant to degrade you in the eyes of other people in the newspaper” says Goodman of Coulson | ||
Goodman talks about Sean Hoare as one of Coulson’s best friends: “When he became a difficult person at office he was pretty much sacked.” | ||
Goodman explains that “Andy was a showbusiness reporter…. who started at Bizarre showbusiness desk….. not hard news” | ||
“Investigations, gritty show business stuff” says Goodman of hard news. The other NOTW journalist had worked in hard news and features. | ||
“He was very old school, from the 80s, when Kelvin Mackenzie was editor of Sun, thought the best way of getting stuff….was aggression” | ||
“He liked action, action, action all the time” Goodman says of other NOTW journo “like dogs chasing cars” | ||
Goodman says he was well regarded before editorial bosses changed: had the record for most front page splashes at NOTW before then. | ||
Jury are shown a picture from “Headlines in Histor” from the Newseum in Washington affiliated to the Smithsonian with Goodman’s work | ||
“He didn’t like me, he made it his business to tell everyone he didn’t” says Goodman of new arrival above him at NOTW. | ||
“Stories are driven by contacts, not running around like a headless chicken so we had a real clash of cultures” says Goodman of new arrival | ||
“He had quite a list of characters he didn’t like” says Goodman, naming Sean Hoare among others. He would diss them at conference. | ||
Goodman says his relationship with Coulson was good before the new arrival: got worse “You could see the influence on Andy all the time” | ||
Goodman says Coulson tried to prove himself tougher than this new arrival, and this had a “corrosive relationship” | ||
Goodman describes Kuttner as “difficult… not just to me… just difficult” He would “arbitrarily cut” money to sources. | ||
“It’s not very productive” says Goodman of Kuttner: “It wasn’t just me” | ||
Goodman says she only saw Carter on the way to see Brooks “helpful, nice” he describes her. | ||
Goodman is asked about Greg Miskiw: no professional difficulties with him. | ||
Goodman talks about the various roles of Neville Thurlbeck. They worked together for years “a very straightforward chap” says Goodman | ||
Goodman has known James Weatherup since they both started at NOTW. No professional problems: “Very straightforward” | ||
Goodman is asked about another NOTW journalist named in Dan Evans’ evidence. Goodman worked for him on book serialisations when suspended 06 | ||
Spens turns to an 22/07/05 email about Sienna Miller, and then Earl Spenser which mentions Goodman. | ||
Goodman was being consulted over the Jude Law story because the nanny had worked for Earl Spenser. | ||
Goodman talks about Dan Evans: “I didn’t even know he was a contemporary of mine”: never worked nor socialised with him. | ||
Spens asks about the “culture of NOTW between 2003 and 2006” Goodman “extraordinarily competitive, extraordinarily fast bullying, menacing” | ||
“Not only were we competitive with other papers, but with each other – departments, reporters… an extreme drive for results” says Goodman | ||
Goodman says the by line count mean you’d be “hauled over the coals” if you didn’t deliver. Competition encouraged by management | ||
Goodman talks of Mazer Mahmood about a household name model “suggestion was she was working as upmarket prostitute in Europe” | ||
“Maz set up one of his fake Sheikh operations – independent of news – so NOTW journo phone model’s agent and warned her” says Goodman | ||
Goodman says this is an example of the level of internal competition between news and investigations. | ||
Goodman talks about rivalry between NOTW journos “you’re really only as good as the contacts you have”; He had offer from Mirror for job | ||
Goodman told Marunchak of job offer at Mirror. Marunchak knew Goodman met his contact. “He put a PI from Southern Investigations…” | ||
Goodman alleges PI tracked contact and then Marunchak threatened to expose contact if he to Mirror. | ||
Goodman remembers being “berated” by Kuttner for performance, even though he had 7 front pages of NOTW and spread inside on Di’s bodyguard | ||
29/11/06 Goodman pleads guilty at this court. 26/01/07 Sentenced to 4 months in prison 05/02/07 dismissed by NOTW | ||
Goodman released from prison in late Feb 2007. 02/03/07 Goodman gave notice of internal appeal against NOTW for unfair dismissal | ||
30/05/07 Goodman’s appeal rejected. Settlement in July 2007 from NOTW for £140k | ||
Goodman says this was about a year and half salary at the time in 2007 | ||
Goodman says he didn’t get work for a year: then some casual work for Daily Star and some from an Austrian based newsagency. | ||
Goodman says he was on about a quarter of his former salary though working 7 days a week. | ||
Goodman explains that he was arrested again in July 2011 and lost his job at the Daily Star. Central European News work dried up | ||
Goodman says he’s been the sole carer of his nine year old daughter, doing school run and Brownie run. | ||
Count 2 – The Purchase of Royal Internal Telephone Directories | ||
Count 2, explains Spens, the purchase of Royal Internal Telephone Directories – one published in Sept 02. A Green Book from same year. | ||
Count 2, explains Spens, involves the purchase of an ITD (internal telephone directory) around May June 2005 | ||
Spens goes to the jury bundle on these two directories. | ||
This page lists the documents found at Goodman’s home in 2006: 7 ITDs and 8 Royal Green Books | ||
Goodman explains the Royal Green Books – “a directory of names addresses and telephone numbers of senior members of Royal Household” | ||
Goodman confirms some listings contain home numbers of individuals. And “very few… some” mobile numbers. | ||
01/08/98 Directory shown. August 92 directory no mobile numbers. Sept 97 no mobile numbers. Oct 99 no mobile numbers. | ||
04/10/2000 is the first time mobile numbers are included in Royal Green Books. Few more in 2001. | ||
“Farm shop, apothecary, royal accountant, helicopter pilot” have mobile numbers. Few extras the next year Spens notes. | ||
Spens points out there were 400 entries in Green Book. Goodman says the internal directories are more for “foot soldiers in Royal Household” | ||
Goodman says “most the information in the directories could be found elsewhere… important that it’s gathered together in one book” | ||
BREAKING: Goodman denies every using information in Green Books for either phone hacking or blagging. | ||
Spens goes through the internal phone directories: only one mobile number by 97, only one in 98, 3 by 99, 6 by 2001, few more later years | ||
ITD’s would name 650 members of the Royal Staff says Spens – some contracting and part time jobs not listed says Goodman. | ||
Goodman says “there are public employees…. private secretaries appear in Green Book… personal employees would appear in ITDs” | ||
Goodman says Green Books contained no personal details “barely any names at all… just job role and numbers” | ||
“It sounds very Upstairs/Downstairs” says Spens of distinction between Green Books and ITDs: “Yes, Very Downton Abbey’ says Goodman | ||
Goodman says he’d use the directories during the deadline for NOTW on Saturday to “put stories to people… out of hours” | ||
“You could see who’s going where, who’s up or down” says Goodman of Green Books: “I used them as a glorified phone directory” he says | ||
Of ITDs Goodman says you “could ring Chauffeur. Get around press office and get an honest reaction from them”. | ||
Goodman says they also helped with knowing size of households, and tracking the back stories of employees where they’d worked before. | ||
I can now report that the comments about allegedly aggressive new arrival at NOTW in previous Goodman evidence was Neil Wallis | ||
Back after a break in the #hackingtrial | ||
Spens resumes his questioning of Goodman: he goes back to a previous document “a bit out of context” | ||
Spens is back on rivalries: Goodman email from 10/07/01 about “sensitive” sources “not keen on them hanging countersigned by desk” | ||
Goodman talks about the death of Princess Diana. Call in the middle of the night ‘Palace press office was quite frankly useless” | ||
“Using the Green Book I was able to contact Sir Robin Janver, the Queen’s private secretary” says Goodman of Diana’s death. | ||
“Through that frank conversation we managed to mobilise press into some kind of strategy” says Goodman of 1 am call to Janver. | ||
Goodman talks about the “apparent lack of respect” shown to Diana and the “stuffy protocol” about flags being at half mast. | ||
Goodman talks about 20 minute half mast flag at the Palace: he claims a Fireman had done this out of disgusts. Using ITD Goodman called him | ||
Fireman confirmed the incident. This did appear in the newspaper. | ||
Goodman talks of Sir Michael Peate, who was private secretary to Charles, and the “Big PR campaign around Camilla Parker Bowles.” | ||
Goodman “I had his number from the Green Book, I called about 3.30 pm… his wife said he was out walking. I had his mobile number from mtg” | ||
Wife said “he’s mobile isn’t working but there was a public phone box he stops at at 4pm” says Goodman. He called public box. Peate answered | ||
Goodman talks about staff of Prince Charles selling off foreign gifts: Sir Michael Peate had press conference saying Charles very frugal. | ||
Goodman explains how he used the ITD to “expose” the fact Prince Charles had 3 valets. | ||
Goodman talks of 21st Birthday of Prince William when a man dressed as Osama Bin Laden crashed the party and stood next to him. | ||
“Using the Green Book I was able to contact household members” says Goodman of getting a “response” about the Bin Laden lookalike: | ||
Goodman: “this was a great scoop – it went over 7 pages” Saunders: “You filled 7 pages with that story. You took 30 seconds to explain it” | ||
Goodman relates another story of “many items of incredibly valuable Georgian silver” being stolen from Palace. Press office denied it. | ||
Goodman: “Using internal telephone director… able to call, to show something had happened and Palace Press office not telling the truth” | ||
Spens asks about the 15 books found in his home in August 2006: he was questioned about them, and whether taken illegally. | ||
All these exhibits were used in the 2006 case: Goodman not prosecuted for any offence related to that. | ||
Goodman says the NOTW already had copies of the Green Book when he arrived there in 1996 | ||
BREAKING: Goodman says two directories came from, Kenneth Stronach, valet to the Prince of Wales – 98 and 93 | ||
Goodman corrects it was 88 Green Book, supplied by Stronach in 1995. First approached by son selling stories to NOTW. | ||
“It became clear his father was thoroughly fed up with working for the Royal Household, and the Prince of Wales in particular” Goodman says | ||
“He gave the two books as an act of goodwill” says Goodman: He says he never paid any money for them or considered them stolen | ||
BREAKING: Goodman claims Princess Diana gave him one of the Royal Green Books in 1992 | ||
Goodman says the Green Book arrived at NOTW office in an envelope with his name on it. He had no notice of it. | ||
Princess Diana called later that day asking Goodman whether he received it. “She had a relationship with several journalists” says Goodman | ||
Goodman talks of Diana’s other contacts, Bashir, Kaye etc. | ||
BREAKING: Goodman says Diana wanted him to “see the scale of her husband’s household compared to hers…. being swamped by his household” | ||
Goodman says Diana was looking for “an outlet to take them on”: “They were quite a powerful organisation: they still are” | ||
Of the other 12 directories, 9 of these from 1997-2001, Goodman cannot remember who supplied them. | ||
Goodman says he never gave any thought to whether they were stolen. | ||
“Not one” of these books says Goodman were procured from a police officer. He never paid anyone for them. | ||
Goodman says he’s never obtained any information or any book from a Royal Protection Officer. | ||
“Royal Protection Officers are not great fans of journalists, Sunday journalists in particular. We’re a distracton” says Goodman | ||
Goodman says it was not a good relationship with Royal Protection Officers and journalists. Never met one of them socially. | ||
Goodman says Royal Protection they were “hostile” to him and NOTW: any stories would not be “good news” and “unflattering” | ||
Goodman talks of Klosters, and invitation to the press to photo the Royal Family. They’d follow bodyguards hoping for lead to Parker Bowles | ||
Goodman explains how the Royal Protection officers hemmed them in and then abandoned their car. | ||
Goodman explains how he hired house opposite Royals in Mauritius: a flotilla of boats including coastguard and protection threatened arrest | ||
Another example Goodman gives is a canoeing trip in Canada: They found out route. As detective spotted them – ordered them to leave. | ||
“This happened all the time” says Goodman. Relationship with SO 14 officers was “hostile” says Goodman. Back tomorrow at 10 am |
Note: All the defendants deny all the charges. The trial continues.
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