Wednesday 12 March 2014
Summary | ||
Rebekah Brooks Cross Examination continues on Count 6 and 7 | ||
Day 13 of Brooks on the Witness Stand | ||
Books asked about News of the World Internal Investigation | ||
Rebekah Brooks Notebooks and Archiving | ||
7 Archived Boxes | ||
Rebekah Brooks Cross Examined on Count 7 | ||
Brooks Arrest | ||
Tony Blair text messages | ||
Electronic Equipment | ||
CCTV Footage | ||
Andrew Edis QC closes his Cross Examination for the Crown | ||
Rebekah Brooks final questions by her Counsel | ||
Jonathan Laidlaw QC final questions to Brooks |
Rebekah Brooks Cross Examination continues on Count 6 and 7 | ||
Day 13 of Brooks on the Witness Stand | ||
Brooks 13th Day in the Witness Box at the #hackingtrial – slightly delayed this morning because of legal argument | ||
Jury back at the #hackingtrial after a brief bit of legal argument. | ||
Mr Clegg for Mark Hanna explains his client’s absence: he had an accident over the weekend and has a hairline fracture. | ||
Andrew Edis QC for the Crown now continues with his cross examination: now concentrating on Counts 6 and 7 | ||
Bit of rooting around for a missing bundle of evidence. | ||
Books asked about News of the World Internal Investigation | ||
Edis is still on the Plan B email: Edis “an internal investigation which would produce a report about…. rogue reporter defence” | ||
Brooks: “report was going to be about 2 or 3 things: the line in the sand drawn in 2007 by NI, the police and PCC – why that line existed” | ||
“There was also a real position: if the company view was that if anyone had to leave the company because of H&L file” says Brooks. | ||
“I felt that Will Lewis who was dealing with the Met should be promoted and circumvent me,” says Brooks of Plan B email. | ||
“I can’t remember when we discovered the police were leaking everything,” says Brooks. Edis: You mean Mr Cripps leaking some things to Gdn” | ||
“There was a culture of paranoia…. we would leak this. But this would be a good leak” says Brooks of Plan B in July 2011 | ||
Brooks: “Police had been in the building on the Friday before it was leaked to the Guardian on Monday” Edis: “This is based on speculation | ||
Edis points out Dowler’s solicitor Mark Lewis who was quoted in the Guardian: “Why would you make the assumption it was the police?” | ||
“The idea was that there would be a report that would exonerate you and you’d keep your job?” asks Edis of Plan B. Brooks denies this. | ||
The email talks about launching the Sun on Sunday: “It was about the future of the company” says Brooks. “Including you.” says Edis. | ||
Brooks says “I was trying to find as many jobs in NI as possible” for NOTW staff. | ||
Edis cites another email about Blair’s advice to Brooks: “This is also about you keeping your job” | ||
“You speak to Mr Murdoch on Sunday evening (10/07/11) and then speak to Les Hinton” says Edis. | ||
Brooks “When I spoke to Mr Murdoch… he knew I’d asked to resign the week before when he was in Sun Valley… his view was I shouldn’t resign” | ||
“We discussed the Harbottle and Lewis file and what to do with it” says Brooks of Murdoch. | ||
“There’s no evidence that you were to be arrested in April… Who told you?” asks Edis. “Mr Lewis told me there was possibility of arrest” | ||
Brooks agrees her future was in the ‘balance’: Edis cites an email with James Murdoch (not Blair) from the Monday: Brooks at home 11/07/11 | ||
Brooks sends off an email about circulation: James replied “what are you doing on email?” Brooks was told to stop working. | ||
Email also talks about seeing “Charlie for confiscation”: Brooks says it was to confiscate her blackberry. She had it back next morning. | ||
“What you’re telling James is that Blair is seeing a way through this so you can keep your job” says Edis. | ||
Blair conversation transcribed in email talks of a “Hutton style” report on hacking. Brooks said they’d hired Lord MacDonald on H&L files | ||
“Was the decision to give the police the Harbottle and Lewis files a controversial one within the company?” asks Edis. | ||
“We flew to America to see the representation of News Corp and then handed them over to police” says Brooks of Harbottle and Lewis files. | ||
Edis cites more emails about NI internal plans for Sun on Sunday: conference with James by telephone on the Tuesday. | ||
Brooks said in email that Joel, Will and Chase thought it was “imperative” that she faced the DCMS committee. | ||
“Half the people involved thought I should take” [leave of absence] but Lewis and Greenberg thought “I should still be in situ” says Brooks | ||
“People were changing their minds on it all the time” says Brooks of her status in that week. | ||
“We were all going to have a full debrief for the select committee,” says Brooks of preparation session at Enstone Manor | ||
BREAKING: Lord Mandelson was approached to coach Rebekah Brooks for DCMS committee in wake of hacking scandal. | ||
Another email for lunch Thursday 14/07/11 still talks of leave of absence. But afternoon Brooks preparing resignation statement. | ||
Rebekah Brooks Notebooks and Archiving | ||
Brooks leaves NI on Friday 15/07/11 Edis: “Obviously there was a lot of paperwork you left behind you…” | ||
Brooks says the paperwork return in two lots: by Jane Viner and Cheryl Carter. | ||
Brooks asked if she knew Cheryl Carter stored her personal papers in her mother in law’s garage: “I didn’t know where they were stored?” | ||
Edis: “Did you know the police would be entitled to search the premises where you lived?” Brooks: “I knew that back in April” | ||
Edis: “When did Mrs Carter begin her beauty column?” Brooks says she did her beauty training sometime after 2000, when Brooks edited NOTW | ||
“Did the NOTW have a stock of A4 notebooks it supplied to journalists?” asks Edis. Brooks: “I’m sure they did,” says Brooks. | ||
“Harry Scott… described how journalists notebooks would be archived…. Notebooks might be a good thing for the company to keep” says Edis | ||
“I never used the archive,” says Brooks. | ||
Brooks shown a photo of a notebook and agrees she seem some like this. “This is Cheryl’s cuttings for her beauty column,” says Brooks | ||
Edis produces two filofaxes and a desk diary and a call diary | ||
“These are things that belong to you?” asks Edis. “Yes, they did” says Brooks. | ||
Edis points out these were archived. “Did you know that?” he asks. Brooks: “I didn’t think anything of mine was archived” | ||
Edis shows the archive filing list for 02/09/09 “all notebooks from Rebekah Brooks nee Wade” | ||
“The prosecution case is that this is an honest document” says Edis. Brooks: “I didn’t use notebooks like that. It wasn’t my system” | ||
Brooks talks of interviewing President Bush and she didn’t take a notebook, but the White House produced full transcript | ||
“I hadn’t been a journalist since 1995” says Brooks. “Cheryl Carter wasn’t doing a beauty column then” says Edis. Brooks: “No she wasn’t” | ||
“If we work on the assumption these documents were full of staff for Cheryl Carter, what’s the significance of 1995?” asks Edis. | ||
Brooks says Carter started working for her in 1996 or 1995 | ||
Brooks did not know that her office archiving was packed up by a temporary worker in October 2009 | ||
“Cheryl and Debs had been working with me a long time” says Brooks. “I trusted them” | ||
Edis: “Was it anything to do with you… we’re talking about the contents of the Sun Office? Brooks: Her PAs “would know what I needed” | ||
“Didn’t they ask you?” queries Edis. Brooks: “I finished editing the Sun – took everyone out for fish and chips – CEO next morning” | ||
“That’s your job as the boss,” says Edis of Brooks telling her PAs what to move. “Did you take your Man United picture with you?” | ||
“There’s one which was… a leaving present from my team at the Sun… I kept in the first office,” says Brooks. | ||
“In reality you could have stored what you wanted in that place because you were in charge of it” says Edis of NI | ||
“You anticipated the police would want to talk to you in the near future” says Edis of move of boxes on 08/07/11: “Not particularly that day | ||
“I just don’t particularly remember thinking of it that day. I’d been thinking of it for a while” says Brooks. | ||
“This is the morning you sent the Plan B email… which refers to ‘criminal investigation'” says Edis quoting internal statement. | ||
“The criminal investigations were very much on your mind on the 8th of July” says Edis. “They were always on my mind” says Brooks. | ||
Edis cites a 05/07/11 email from Mark Hanna talking of a “police concern” beyond the media attention post Milly Dowler. | ||
Edis asks about the “exit and entry teams” security plan for Brooks. She was concerned about a dawn raid. | ||
Saunders asks what the security teams are going to do if “there’s a dawn raid”. Brooks was worried about leaks and media attention | ||
“I didn’t want a picture of me being arrested… every arrest had been public” says Brooks. | ||
Brooks agrees that on the 8th July that “the police would want to talk to me… don’t remember particularly on that day” | ||
7 Archived Boxes | ||
Edis: “They would want their records if they wanted to conduct a robust criminal investigation… and electronic devices?” Brooks: “Yes” | ||
“You be pretty horrified to discover Cheryl Carter was taking out boxes named notebooks of Rebekah Brooks?” says Edis. | ||
“If you had known what she was doing with those boxes, labelled as they were, you’d be horrified.” Brooks: “I could see the issue” | ||
Edis establishes “Cheryl Carter was working for… doing what you told her to do” Brooks says “yes… it was a terrible day” | ||
“The atmosphere in NOTW was acrimonious to you?” says Edis. “To me and the company” says Brooks. | ||
Edis says of NOTW staff: “They were very angry because they had done nothing wrong”. Brooks agrees | ||
Edis refers to Carter’s November 2011 witness statement: Brooks says Carter was “very relaxed about it” | ||
Edis: “Did she tell you what she’d said?” Brooks: “In broad terms” “Did she tell you that she’d told the police you were at a boot camp?” | ||
Brooks: “I think at the time… she was a bit vague on that… she’d sorted out some boxes of mine when she was at a boot camp” | ||
“I know Cheryl stayed on after I left…. didn’t strike me as odd at the time” says Brooks. This was the first time she ever heard of boxes | ||
BREAKING: Brooks says she never knew of 7 archive boxes in her name even after Carter interviewed about them in November 2011 | ||
“She never warned you police were interested in those boxes because they your name on” asks Edis. “She didn’t seem concerned” said Brooks | ||
Edis points out Carter’s son was interviewed first: “So it didn’t come like a bolt from the blue…. and she didn’t tell you” | ||
“I think the reason she didn’t tell me was because she was still in Australia,’ says Brooks. “There are still phones in Australia” says Edis | ||
Edis says Carter’s story that she couldn’t use the archive in her own name is just “rubbish – she was PA to chief executive officer” | ||
Brooks says she can’t remember when Carter told her the 7 archive boxes were in her name. There was a bail condition not to talk in January | ||
“That was a very serious bit of information you’d remember receiving” says Edis. “The contents of 7 boxes in your name had gone missing” | ||
“In the circumstances of the time this is very bad news for you,” Edis says: “You’d remember being told” | ||
Brooks says she was concerned for her PA “but not for any sinister reasons… I didn’t think it was as serious as it turned out to be” | ||
Brooks says she quite possibly spoke to Cheryl Carter on 10/07/11 but she didn’t meet her. Brooks knew she was visiting her mum in Oxon. | ||
Brooks says she thinks she asked Carter to drive from Essex to Oxfordshire. | ||
Brooks can’t remember if it was her instruction for Cheryl to go to the Barn and look after her mum. | ||
Edis asks how long Cheryl stayed. “I don’t remember that” says Brooks. “Did she bring anything at all?” asks Edis. | ||
“I think Mum said she brought a little present” says Brooks. “Did she ever bring you anything from work?” “Yes, in August, my filing” | ||
“I think I got most of it back in a few months” says Brooks of filing. “Kingsley Napley sent lawyers over to my office…. February 2011” | ||
15 minute break | ||
Rebekah Brooks Cross Examined on Count 7 | ||
Brooks Arrest | ||
Back after the break. Andrew Edis QC coming to the end of the his cross examination of Rebekah Brooks | ||
Edis returns to plans for Enstone Manor on 16/17th July 2011. A new bundle is introduced. | ||
Edis cites a letter from lawyers Burton Copeland to police: 15/07/11 | ||
Letter refers to conversation over interview of Brooks that weekend: 12 noon on the Sunday. Police position open about making an arrest. | ||
Ian Burnton sets out various reasons why Brooks should not be arrested: she intended at that time to answer police questions. | ||
Brooks says “police interviewed my lawyer so I couldn’t use him” of Ian Burnton. Kingsley Napley come into the case on the Saturday. | ||
Kingsley Napley letter is written to police “on the intention of arresting her” | ||
Brooks says Detective Inspector Steve McCabe arrested her outside the car: she’s not 100 percent sure her driver knew of arrest. | ||
Edis cites another document: email by Angus McBride of Kingsley Napley on 18/07/11 about Charlie Brooks. | ||
Brooks says she had no way of looking at emails that day. Letter says “an explanation” about items not consistent with hiding evidence | ||
“Charlie was very keen to explain to the police what had happened to his stuff” says Brooks. New pages added to the bundle by Edis. | ||
Tony Blair text messages | ||
Edis explains that this new evidence is text messages from and to Tony Blair | ||
“This is the arrangements for the discussion with Blair” says Edis. “Call Hotel Landline” says Blair | ||
BREAKING: 16/07/11 Blair offers to help Brooks on DCMS appearance “Definitely” replies Brooks in texts. | ||
BREAKING: Blair texts Brooks “I may be some help in the commons” just before she is arrested. | ||
Brooks says lawyer Parkinson stayed several hours at Enstone Manor farm that weekend. | ||
15/07/11 at 1pm: “Rupert, James and I are at Oxfordshire” texts Brooks to “Tim” | ||
Brooks texts Witherow at Sunday Times re an interview “there are lawyers all over me…. serious situation for me” | ||
Brooks texts James about her arrest: “Hear KRM brilliant with the Dowler family” | ||
“You had quite a long time with your lawyers to get ready for your arrest” says Edis. “Didn’t feel like a lot of time” says Brooks. | ||
“You had plenty of access to legal advice over your situation for a long period of time.” says Edis. “Yes,’ replies Brooks. | ||
Edis says Brooks was “well placed” to deal with questions that Sunday. “Didn’t feel well placed,” says Brooks; “Lost a lawyer” | ||
Brooks says she went to Kingsley Napley before arrest at Lewisham. | ||
Edis talks about Jubilee Barn wi-fi router. “We had broadband” says Brooks. | ||
“Charlie had a mobile office, because I had to be in London a lot. He was writing his novel… but for his horses had to get back to farm” | ||
Electronic Equipment | ||
“You’re busy people you work at the weekends, like busy people do” says Edis. Brooks says she had a laptop, blackberry, Ipad, memory sticks | ||
“Would it be strange to find no computers of any kind?” asks Edis of Jubilee Barn. “No,” says Brooks: “I kept computers with me” | ||
Brooks denies that anyone went to Jubilee Barn to collect devices or documents. | ||
Brooks says she knew there was security at Jubilee Barn that weekend. | ||
Edis suggest the security staff were willing to help her: “pick something up from the Barn” | ||
Brooks said she didn’t know Mark Hanna well, even though he swept her offices for bugs earlier that year when H&L emails recovered. | ||
Brooks concedes that Hanna was in charge of her security that weekend. She can’t remember him acting as a driver during events. | ||
Edis points out three meetings with the lawyers over this three day period. “And you’re unaware of anything… untoward happening?” | ||
Brooks says she knew nothing of Charlie’s Bags etc. until the Monday afternoon. Now she has a vague memory of Charlie concerned about bags. | ||
Brooks says she has a “vague memory of Charlie being on the phone on the car” | ||
Brooks says she was supposed to be rehearsing for DCMS on Monday and then felt very ill – “quite traumatic time.. going to bed, passing out” | ||
CCTV Footage | ||
Edis calls up an 81 second clip of CCTV from Thames Quay car park. | ||
CCTV shows Charlie and driver looking for bag. Brooks gets out of car and waits. | ||
Charlie and driver come back from bins empty handed. Brooks stands there and then follows Charlie into the flat. | ||
“What we’ve just seen is you arriving back from solicitors…. they go over to where there some bins… and there was nothing behind them” | ||
“What did they say?” asks Edis. Brooks: “I’ve obviously thought about this a lot over the last 3 years… I just remember feeling very ill.” | ||
“If they had discovered some computers that had been hidden had been lost, surely you would have heard them discussing that” says Edis. | ||
“The police were searching the flat. It was the sort of crisis Mr Brooks would have told you about as soon as you found out” says Edis. | ||
“I think it was the opposite,” says Brooks: “I think he was trying not to tell me… until he had to” | ||
“Someone had been to the Barn and taken it to Wapping… that is what happened” says Edis. “That’s not what Charlie told me on the day” | ||
“I’m just trying to remember what Charlie said… he’d hidden some personal stuff. It had nothing to do with me” says Brooks. | ||
“He’d given security his mobile office to look after” says Brooks. “And you thought that was pretty stupid?” asks Edis | ||
“He was obsessed about his novels… You don’t want to lose it. I understand the motive” says Brooks. | ||
“It must have been painfully obvious to you he wanted to keep it away from the police” says Saunders. Brooks agrees | ||
“I thought it was impulsive…. a really stupid thing to do” says Brooks. “Why impulsive” asks Edis. “Sounds carefully planned” | ||
“I think it’s evident that he didn’t want the police to get his stuff” says Brooks. Edis “And you didn’t want the police to get your stuff” | ||
“That’s not true,” says Brooks: “the police have all my stuff” “Really?” replies Edis and goes to a new document. | ||
Edis cites a list of 10 devices. 1 belonged to Sir Charles Dunstone. | ||
Edis cites an iPad: “Where’s that?” Brooks says “I assume it’s at News International… everything I had I handed over to police” | ||
Brooks talks about an iPad she gave to new PA in Marylebone in September 2011. | ||
Brooks says this iPad has only emerged in the last few weeks: husband of her PA prompted Charlie. “Why’s that? It’s your iPad?” | ||
Edis points out that evidence on missing devices had been served on June 2013: “I’d forgotten I’d given it to her” | ||
Edis turns to an iPhone on router and empty box at NI: “Where is it?” “I didn’t use an iPhone….I think it must be at News International” | ||
Edis points out the iPhone was a live device. Brooks thinks she was developing a Times ap at the time. | ||
Brooks “thinks” she gave the iPhone back to News International. | ||
Edis points out “there are three iPhones on this list – did you give them all back?” Brooks explains they were “madly developing” aps | ||
Edis asks about three missing Blackberry’s on devices list. | ||
“Again, they must be with news” says Brooks of three missing blackberries. | ||
Brooks talks about changing blackberries regularly how she liked new models, sometimes went back to the old one. | ||
Edis explains how the Blackberry police have got only goes back to beginning of June. | ||
Laidlaw intervenes. Edis asks to talk “to his Lordship in the jury’s absence because he doesn’t want to have this unseemly row” | ||
Jury back in after brief legal argument. | ||
Saunders asks Brooks: “At a later date Blackberry handed back to defence… who did some downloads… first day end of May 2011” | ||
Andrew Edis QC closes his Cross Examination for the Crown | ||
“All these devices… they had some information on them. And if I go through the list you’re going to say NI had them?” asks Edis. “Yes” | ||
NI’s auditing system of devices was pretty bad “up to Feb 2011” says Edis. Brooks disagrees “it hadn’t been done” when she left. | ||
“Have you asked your former employers whether they have those devices?” asks Edis. “Only through my legal time” | ||
“You are still on good terms with senior people at NI” asks Edis. “I certainly haven’t spoken to any of my successors or new exec team” | ||
“You were in a position to control the activities of all those people… they were all working for you. One was married to you” says Edis. | ||
“Over that weekend you were still in charge of what happened to your property” says Edis. “I gave everything to the police” says Brooks. | ||
“Your evidence is that you had a meteoric rise… editor of two major national newspapers… pretty stunning achievement” says Edis | ||
“Hugely demanding jobs in a very competitive industry” says Edis. Brooks says it was competitive within and between newspapers. | ||
Brooks says it was a “tough world”: Edis “And you won didn’t you? And you got very good stories. You didn’t care how you got them” | ||
Brooks says that’s unfair. | ||
Brooks is asked whether the existence of Mulcaire was “hidden from her” and the “books were cooked to achieve that” | ||
“Was there anything in it for them in hiding it from you?” asks Edis. Brooks: “I can see no reason…. why PI would be concealed” | ||
“I could see why they would conceal phone hacking from me” says Brooks. | ||
“Is there anything in it for Mr Kuttner to conceal payments? Was there anything in it for him at all?” asks Edis. “I don’t see that” | ||
“They would have never done it without your approval would they?” says Edis of Kuttner, Miskiw and Thurlbeck and phone hacking. | ||
Brooks is asked about Sun journalist asking her to pay Jordan Barber, and MOD official. | ||
“In reality x should have told you” establishes Saunders: “Yes he should” says Brooks. | ||
Edis asks about the missing boxes, and Charlie’s bags: “You knew nothing of them. And they had nothing to do with you?” “Yes” | ||
“You were running your world… you were the boss” “I was chief executive” “And before that the editor” says Edis. | ||
“Your evidence has been a carefully presented and prepared script and bears little relation to the truth these offences” RB “No, it isn’t” | ||
Texts between Blair and Brooks on eve of her arrest http://twitter.com/GaetanPortal/status/443741429513605120/photo/1HT … @GaetanPortal @NicoHines | ||
Jonathan Laidlaw QC now starts with a re-examination of his client Rebekah Brooks. | ||
Rebekah Brooks final questions by her Counsel | ||
Jonathan Laidlaw QC final questions to Brooks | ||
Laidlaw says his cross examination will not be much more than an hour. He asks about Brooks “character”: she has no previous convictions | ||
Brooks was arrested after the incident with Ross Kemp and kept overnight in police cells, but not even questioned. | ||
Laidlaw turns to the example of Saddam Anthrax story when she paid a public official | ||
Brooks confirms that source on Anthrax story was arrested for breaking the Official Secrets Act. | ||
Laidlaw re-examines on the Sophie Wessex story | ||
Laidlaw turns to Mulcaire notes on Sophie Rees Jones, future Countess of Wessex. | ||
Laidlaw says the tasking for Mulcaire on Sophie Wessex came between two successive NOTW stories about her business dealings. | ||
Laidlaw turns to the Milly Dowler story and Brooks’ defence statement. | ||
Laidlaw asks whether following passage reflects Brooks’ interest in the Milly Dowler story. He reads whole paragraph. | ||
“The defendant had not taken a special interest in the story of Amanda Dowler” says written statement. Laidlaw asks “has changed at all?” | ||
“Obviously it changed in July 2011 when I heard Milly Dowler‘s phone had been accessed,” says Brooks. Laidlaw “That’s not what I meant” | ||
Laidlaw apologises to Brooks for being unclear: “You’ve been in the witness box a long time” | ||
“At the time I was interested in the disappearance of Milly Dowler, but not in the same way as Sarah’s Law” says Brooks. | ||
Laidlaw says that at the time Brooks didn’t think Dowler disappearance “a predatory paedophile… as turned out to be tragically true” | ||
Brooks says she wouldn’t have shared police ‘off the record’ briefings with readers until a public statement. She talks of Shannon Matthews | ||
Saunders intervenes over police tip-offs: “Does it affect the way you report it?” Brooks: “People got quite angry over Shannon Matthews” | ||
Laidlaw asks about unsent 2004 love letter from Brooks to Coulson and context of Milly Dowler in April 2002. | ||
Edis had said “if a deputy editor had been committing a crime he might not tell his editor…. but he might tell her if he trusted her” | ||
Laidlaw addresses “issue of deputy editor committing crime while editor is away on holiday… what is your response to that?” | ||
Brooks says “no” to a question of coming back to work and finding a deputy up to no good. | ||
“If someone’s hiding something from you it’s hard…” says Brooks. Laidlaw rephrases the question. | ||
“Were there ever occasions when things had occurred or not occurred” when you were away as editor, asks Laidlaw. Brooks “Can’t think of any” | ||
“As a deputy editor you’re always trying to get a great paper out, I might not have agreed with some of the splashes” says Brooks. | ||
Laidlaw says the prosecution is alleging that Coulson knew of Milly Dowler phone. “Did anyone… share that info when you were away?” “No” | ||
Brooks says it’s “hypothetical” but she couldn’t see a scenario that doesn’t lead to “calling the police straight away”. | ||
Laidlaw “would your relationship with Andy Coulson made any difference? Brooks “I think I would have been angrier still” | ||
Laidlaw turns to the Goodman/Mulcaire sentencing hearing at Old Bailey in January 2007. | ||
Edis had previously shown court transcript from Jan 2007: everything is recorded and made available to transcribers. | ||
Brooks says she never had a copy of court transcript – “I don’t remember it”. She accepts the Sun had a reporter at the hearing. | ||
Brooks tells Laidlaw she can’t remember who covered it for the Sun. “I probably would have seen their copy” says Brooks. | ||
Laidlaw says the 2007 judge did not say Mulcaire’s contract was for “private detective work” but did say retainer in place for 5 years. | ||
Laidlaw quotes Judge in Mulcaire/Goodman sentencing: “There is no dispute in case of Mulcaire that I should make any confiscation order” | ||
“My memory was that activities between Goodman and Mulcaire… was for private detective work,” says Brooks. | ||
Now onto email deletion in Laidlaw’s re-exam of Brooks. | ||
Laidlaw addresses prosecution claim that email deletion was “manipulated” by Brooks and only legal intervention stopped her “skullduggery” | ||
Laidlaw cites NI email saying no emails should be destroyed “no matter how compromising they may be” Brooks signed off on this policy. | ||
John Chapman, head of legal affairs, writes to Cheeseborough with details of exceptions to email deletion. | ||
October 2010 email excepts certain NOTW journos and others from email deletion because of ongoing litigation and competition law. | ||
Brooks confirms Will Lewis was appointed by her and reported to her: in 2011 he and Chapman showed 3 emails that closed NOTW | ||
Brooks was “ultimately responsible” for internal NI inquiries which exposed – through legal disclosure – these emails | ||
Laidlaw asks about Brooks email “Yes to Jan 10. Clean sweep” He says prosecution were implying all emails including exception deleted. | ||
Justice Saunders establishes the ‘carve out’ email groups actually post date the clean sweep email. Brooks says it had been discussed before | ||
Laidlaw re-examines on the Max Clifford issue | ||
Laidlaw says the Edis claimed “one million pounds paid to Max Clifford…. was something of a gift” | ||
Brooks accepts that “one of the motives” for Max Clifford payout was to stop Mulcaire “naming names” but partly “commercial” | ||
“I am hoping Max’s objective… is to recreate his commercial relationship with us or humiliate us in court” says NI internal email | ||
Brooks says Clifford’s objective was to “re-establish a commercial relationship” | ||
Laidlaw turns to legal note which records Colin Myler asking what Farrer’s external lawyer recommended “another bash for Max” | ||
Legal note talks about Clifford “he may have four or five good stories… so £200k would be cheap” Laidlaw asks: “Does that establish value” | ||
“Four or five stories could cost more than that,” says Brooks of Clifford payment. She says she knew “much more” than external lawyer. | ||
Saunders asks Brooks if she aware about lawyer’s nervousness about any documentary evidence of the deal with Clifford. She thinks she was. | ||
Brooks is asked about the integrity of John Chapman, legal director: Brooks said he heard “he was very very good” | ||
Neither Chapman nor external lawyer ever said unwritten deal with Clifford was “improper” | ||
Saunders wants to give Brooks the opportunity to address the ‘cover up’ allegation about post Mulcaire. She agrees ‘damage limitation’ | ||
Saunders: “Did you know… that were only five other victims Mulcaire was being dealt with?” “yes,” says Brooks. | ||
Brooks agrees she knew the court case hadn’t dealt with full number of victims at NOTW in 2007. | ||
Brooks agrees she was involved in damage limitation while she was at the Sun in offering Goodman a job. | ||
“There you are, a campaigning journalist at the Sun… you don’t like coverups, damage limitations do you?” asks Saunders. | ||
“The fact you were prepared to get involved at editor of the Sun” says Saunders of Goodman: “the suggestion is you yourself were involved” | ||
“I felt very comfortable for years… I had no need to worry about my own position” says Brooks. “When I was told about Goodman by my boss | ||
“So why get involved at that stage? Why involve yourself as an editor of another Newspaper?” asks Saunders. “I was very loyal to the company | ||
“It didn”t matter where you came from, how you spoke… I was very loyal to Mr Hinton… Northern Boy made good” says Brooks. | ||
“So what you did was out of loyalty to the company” says Saunders. Brooks says she was “diplomatic” – Hinton valued that. | ||
Saunders “wasn’t it something worth digging into… the Guardian certainly thought that?” Brooks: “The police had told me that” | ||
Brooks said that the police in 2006 never gave her any indication that phone hacking at NOTW went beyond Clive Goodman. | ||
Laidlaw turns to the 10 missing devices and a “recently discovered iPad” – Laidlaw calls it “Julie’s iPad” | ||
Edis intervenes: “can we make sure this evidence is admissible” Laidlaw reminds Brooks he doesn’t want any hearsay evidence on this. | ||
Brooks remembers giving Julie Duffy, her new PA, an iPad – who joined her in early October 2011 – “pretty early on” | ||
Brooks explains “what Julie said to me she’d been watching the news” Edis intervenes. Brooks says Julie jogged her memory. | ||
Brooks says when the existence of the iPad came to her attention she told Angus McBride. It’s now with the police. | ||
Last topic is texts, says Laidlaw, turning to the new evidence shown to the jury today. | ||
Laidlaw turns to the Blair/Brooks texts and “others” on the Friday and Saturday before her arrest. Brooks can’t find the bundle. | ||
Brooks explains she saw texts when they were sent her, but have only seen these during the course of her evidence – a file before weekend | ||
Laidlaw will explain in due course where these texts were from. | ||
Laidlaw wants to introduce two new texts into the defence bundle – “right at the very end” | ||
Texts from 10/07/11 the last Sunday before Brooks was arrested. They were found in the inbox of her phone. | ||
Laidlaw says the timing of the texts could be an hour out because of GMT. | ||
In previous evidence Brooks said she met James Murdoch that lunchtime and Rupert Murdoch later than Sunday. | ||
Laidlaw talks about Cheryl Carter’s trip to Jubilee Barn to “see her mum” Brooks says she knew nothing of Cheryl’s activities | ||
The texts Laidlaw adduces are from Cheryl and her mother. Brooks explains the role of Joel Klein on the MSC | ||
“Joel Klein called…. Having lunch with Deborah and Hazel” says Carter texts. The latter two are Brooks’ mother and her friend. | ||
Second text from Brooks’ mother talks about Cheryl’s visit and how she is now feeding pigs. | ||
Laidlaw has one final point. | ||
Laidlaw refers to the June 2011 email asking to talk to Ross Kemp about phone hacking. | ||
Brooks had seen Kemp’s name in notes shown to her by police; “There were some other names” says Brooks. | ||
Brooks says she “might have told her mum” about her appearing in notes. She can’t remember if she spoke to Jane Moore, and friends of Ross’ | ||
A A Gill was mentioned in this Mulcaire note. “He and Ross were good friends”: Nicola Formby was also mentioned. | ||
Saunders thanks Brooks and jury: 10 am tomorrow morning. |
Note: All the defendants deny all the charges. The trial continues.
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