Thursday 9 January 2014
Summary | ||
The Prosecution Case Continues | ||
Peter Jukes Stomach and Twitter Account not Playing Fair | ||
Witness – Deborah Keegan (Former Personal Assistant to Rebekah Brooks) | ||
Counsel for Cheryl Carter continues cross examination of Deborah Keegan | ||
Counsel for Rebekah Brooks cross examines Deborah Keegan | ||
Further Prosecution questions to Deborah Keegan | ||
Witness – Jane Viner (Facilities Manager at News International) | ||
Prosecution Counsel questions Jane Viner | ||
Counsel for Rebekah Brooks cross examines Jane Viner |
The Prosecution Case Continues | ||
Peter Jukes Stomach and Twitter Account not Playing Fair | ||
Heading back to #hackingtrial at the Old Bailey, with dicky stomach and dodgy twitter lock out almost resolved. Thanks for RTs to @Support | ||
Back in Court 12 of the Old Bailey: Laidlaw for Brooks is about to cross examine her former PA Deborah Keegan | ||
Witness – Deborah Keegan (Former Personal Assistant to Rebekah Brooks) | ||
Counsel for Cheryl Carter continues cross examination of Deborah Keegan | ||
Apologies: it seems Trevor Burke, counsel for Carter, has more questions for Deborah Keegan about the clearing of the Sun office in 2009 | ||
Keegan is asked if the contents of the boxes put into archive in 2009 were marked. She says the boxes were numbered, but not itemised | ||
Burke asks Keegan if she had regular arguments with David Smith, head of messengers, about the access to messengers | ||
Justice Saunders asks about the storage exercise when Brooks was promoted. Keegan and Burke suggest 1st September 2009 | ||
Counsel for Rebekah Brooks cross examines Deborah Keegan | ||
Laidlaw cross examines Deborah Keegan: “You’re one of Mrs Brooks’ PAs: I’m one of her lawyers” and establishes connections with Brooks | ||
Brooks arrived as deputy of the Sun in 1995, shortly after Keegan was working in editor’s office | ||
Because Brooks would ‘act up’ as editor, Keegan would support her at the Sun in 1995. Brooks arrived with Carter as dedicated PA | ||
In 2000, Brooks and Carter leave for the NOTW. Keegan remains in the Sun office. | ||
Keegan left the Sun offices only in 2009 when Brooks became NI CEO. | ||
Laidlaw asks Keegan about ‘archiving’ during “your whole period of service with Brooks.” Keegan had said she archived three or four times | ||
Keegan says she might have archived material once or twice in the time she worked for Brooks | ||
On archiving her own notebooks, Keegan agrees with Laidlaw: “Going back to 1996, I may have done.” | ||
Keegan thinks the filing of the 7 boxes in 2009 might have been the first time she archived anything. | ||
“There wasn’t that much hard copy that went out in correspondence from the Editors….” Saunders establishes it was readers letters | ||
Laidlaw goes back to Burke’s questioning (“He’s now with a beard – you wouldn’t know that”) | ||
Asked if archiving is determined by ‘space issues’ Keegan says “totally”. | ||
Brooks PA at the Sun, Keegan, says “files were beginning to collapse” even at that time. | ||
Laidlaw suggests that the archiving Keegan does was ‘getting rid of excess’ | ||
Saunders asks Laidlaw if he minds further questions to Keegan: “I might mind, my lord, but I wouldn’t dream of stopping you.” Laughter | ||
Keegan agrees there was some selection in archived material – stuff they didn’t feel comfortable putting in bin bags | ||
Laidlaw alights on the moment Brooks became a CEO and arrived in “DeepCarpetLand”: it meant about a halving of storage space | ||
Laidlaw explores the floor plan for Thomas More Square. Brooks’ office was quite spacious, but no room for storage | ||
“If you were uncertain of throwing something away it went into archive?” Keegan agrees with Laidlaw, counsel for Brooks. | ||
Back to that Sunday in September, Laidlaw suggests the archiving “had nothing to do with Rebekah Brooks… she wasn’t there.” | ||
“She would expect the office would be running smoothly on the Monday morning, how we got there was our business” Brooks’ PA Deborah Keegan | ||
Keegan agrees “she didn’t need to seek Brooks’ permission… or report back to her” about archiving her materials. | ||
Laidlaw suggests Keegan: “you would not be throwing away or sending to archive anything she would need” | ||
Laidlaw again stresses Brooks had nothing to do with what went into those 7 boxes, their labelling, or sending to archive. Keegan agrees | ||
Laidlaw cites archive saying 7 boxes had notebooks from “Rebekah Brooks, nee Wade” – “how that came to happen has nothing to do with Brooks” | ||
Laidlaw now explores the nature of NI notebooks, and Brooks’ use of them when she was deputy editor of the Sun, and then editor | ||
Laidlaw hands out two kinds of notebooks: a reporter’s notebook: roughly A5, and a larger A4 foolscap notebook | ||
Laidlaw then suggests to Keegan that Brooks did not use either of those kind of notebooks “habitually”. | ||
“I think we feel a question coming on?” suggests Saunders to Laidlaw. | ||
Keegan says Brooks didn’t use notebooks “regularly” | ||
Laidlaw then lights on the Brooks’ desk diary: as she was driven to work Brooks would read all the daily papers. | ||
“She would check what the rivals were doing… and tear out or mark out relevant bits,” Laidlaw says of Brooks’ prep for 11 am conference | ||
“I’m not sure I noticed a regular format,’ says Brooks PA Keegan. But there would be notes KRM or Les Hinton for calls she had to make | ||
Brooks would use these pads to sketch out the layout for the next day of the Sun, perhaps with a headline, and then tear out for 11 am conf | ||
Keegan agrees with Laidlaw these pages weren’t “filed”: she would sometimes ask Brooks if they could be thrown away. | ||
Both Carter and Keegan kept Brooks personal and professional diary: Keegan agrees “those things were all kept” from 1995-2011 | ||
Laidlaw suggests that Brooks took up James Murdoch’s suggestion from his time as CEO to keep a notebook: leather bound with green pages | ||
“No one worked quite as she did…. she drove herself extremely hard,” Laidlaw suggests. “Spot on,” agrees her PA Keegan | ||
“There was also a softer side,” suggests Laidlaw of Brooks “where she displayed great kindness to you and your family” Keegan agrees | ||
Laidlaw points out how people worked with Brooks for a long time. | ||
Laidlaw then says the Sun was a “pretty tough environment”: Keegan says it was “challenging but satisfying… a love hate relationship” | ||
“In the early days a very male dominated environment,” says Laidlaw of the Sun “not entirely friendly towards women” | ||
Laidlaw, counsel for Brooks, then establishes “the breadth of things as CEO Mrs Brooks was concerned with.” He goes to filing of 12/07/12 | ||
Going through 2011 files – personal files, LSE files (James Murdoch sent Brooks to study). In cupboard 3 more business related stuff. | ||
From previous evidence the itemisation of Brooks’ office records circa 2011 runs to over 130 pages. | ||
Laidlaw pauses over Cupboard 4 of Brooks’ filing: schedule for Afghanistan – Brooks travelled to the bases and Helmand Province | ||
Keegan had to make sure Brooks had appropriate clothing for Aghanistan. She worked with Apple for newspaper aps | ||
Laidlaw points out the Brooks supported the troops, and issues such a Bernardos, and Sarah’s Law | ||
One of the files relates to Comic Relief, another to Davos Trip, European Constitution, Fairbridge – youth charity to help excluded kids | ||
“Again something pretty close to her heart” says Laidlaw of Fairbridge charity: “she was a comprehensive girl herself” | ||
Laidlaw alights on Brook files on Huntley, Malaria No More, Mentoring of Shine, the Millies (Military awards) and a phone hacking file | ||
Brooks other files: police bravery awards, press complaints, press association, Swim Mentoring | ||
Another file “Volunteering Update”: Brooks required all employees had to volunteer for a charity | ||
Laidlaw points out the filing for NOTW, the Sun, Sunday Times, The Times: a reference to the CEO notebooks | ||
A file on Thornwood Academy, a school Brooks supported. | ||
“Neither was it possible for Rebekah to have a personal life, she didn’t have time to go shopping,” Laidlaw establishes with her PA Keegan | ||
“One last topic from me,” says Laidlaw for Brooks: “This is about telephones… as editor of the Sun and as CEO.” | ||
“I suggest she used a single mobile number through that entire time,” says Laidlaw. “She always used as a Blackberry” | ||
“We reluctantly gave up our blackberrys,” says Keegan. Laidlaw asks if Brooks was against using an iPhone. | ||
Charlie was provided with a NI laptop and phone when he married Brooks: “He lost phones?” asks Saunders. “Yes.” | ||
On email addresses, Laidlaw asks Keegan if she just had a single email address. “There wasn’t a second?” “Not that I was aware of?” | ||
The framed football shirt is now established as a Man U shirt | ||
Further Prosecution questions to Deborah Keegan | ||
Edis has a follows up about meetings with Cheryl Carter after her initial police statement in Nov 12 “I have met her…not in a one to one” | ||
Keegan says she has met Cheryl Carter five or six times since her arrest. Lunches etc accompanied by Sally Brook at the Sun | ||
Edis asks who gave Keegan who gave her the green light to meet Carter: Kathleen Harris a lawyer working for News UK | ||
“Why did you talk to News UK’s lawyers about meeting Carter,” Edis. “Did you ask police or CPS whether it was a good idea to meet?” “No” | ||
Sally Brook is a journalist who supports arrested journalists at the Sun, explains Keegan of their chaperone | ||
“Is there any note of the conversations that took place when you met?” No. “What was the point of them?” “To meet a friend….” | ||
Edis asks about any further conversations since her first witness statement in Nov 12 – “just by text” says Keegan. | ||
“I think so,” says Keegan of her email contact to Carter. Keegan texted her more recently because she no longer had an email address | ||
Keegan says she has not talked about the case with Carter. | ||
Edis asks how much notice Keegan had of Brooks’ move in 2009. Keegan says she thinks she knew of promotion two months before | ||
Edis brings up a letter from Baroness Buscombe chair of PCC 23rd July 2009 about phone hacking to Brooks as “Chief Executive Designate” | ||
Keegan says she had very little to do with the move of office when Brooks became CEO – it was done by facilities as a “planned move” | ||
Actually the notebooks were stored on the Wednesday 2nd of September. Edis asks where the boxes were on Monday and Tuesday, Around the floor | ||
Edis takes Keegan to archiving note says “7 Brooks notebooks” – Keegan she said she would handwrite her entries for archives. | ||
Keegan said she would have problem lining up the notes for this archive form | ||
Edis turns to some emails by Keegan about “Rebekah still doing boot camp” seen before | ||
Edis cites another email from Carter (executive assistant to Brooks) to Keegan (personal assistant): “Is there any difference in title?” | ||
Keegan says ‘executive assistant’ meant Carter was more senior | ||
Edis for the crown asks about Keegan asking for bank statements to prove where Brooks was during the Milly Dowler NOTW story in 2002 | ||
Keegan reads out her 14/07/11 email to Carter about the problems of duplicate bank statements for 2002 from HSBC (six year limit) | ||
Keegan says she was also looking for Brooks’ diary for 2002 during the 2011 period just after the Milly Dowler story broke. | ||
Asked if diaries were ever archived Keegan replies “I don’t think so.” | ||
“The system was putting them in the cupboard,” says Keegan. She was asked to look for 2002 Brooks diary, but cannot recall if it was found | ||
Keegan admits she has not seen the 2002 diary since. | ||
A short break for 15 mins | ||
Thanks to speedy action by twitter @support it seems the tweet limit and lock out has been resolved. | ||
The 15 minute break has been elongated to encompass legal argument at the #hackingtrial | ||
Break to 2pm | ||
Back at the #hackingtrial (after a break for legal argument) with Edis re-examining Keegan. He has a new document to insert in jury bundle | ||
The first document is a 3-page document, says Edis for the Crown. | ||
Edis then asks the jury to turn forward to a 30 page document with a more legible document | ||
Edis then goes to the Cheryl Carter defence bundle and asks Brooks’ former PA Deborah Keegan to confirm it’s a witness statement | ||
Edis cites an 23/06/11 email from Brooks to Keegan and Carter about her 2002 diaries establishing where Brooks was during Milly Dowler story | ||
Edis cites an email making contact with HSBC from 08/07/11. Keegan says she doesn’t know what it’s about. | ||
“Why were you looking for Brooks’ bank statements in 2002?” asks Edis. “I was trying to ascertain where she was in 2002,” replies Keegan | ||
Between those two emails Edis asserts there was a request from Carter to Nick Mayes asking for Brooks’ records. | ||
Keegan says she would have been sat next to Carter normally. They would never leave the office if Brooks was there. | ||
Asked for what reason Carter would leave the office if Brooks was there Keegan says “Because she would have to collect something.” | ||
An email on 15/07/11 from Keegan to Carter about the HSBC statements: Keegan says she might have known then or before what this was about | ||
Edis wants some clarification of Keegan’s statement she never thought the police would take an interest in Brooks’ records. “I can’t say…” | ||
Edis says he will assist Keegan, and turns to an email 05/07/11 from Hanna to Brooks cc’ed to Keegan about her security team. | ||
“If police concern,” writes Hanna, he suggests Brooks switch teams. “Not an email that surprises me,” says Keegan | ||
Another break for legal argument | ||
Back with Edis re-examining Keegan on an email from NI head of security 05/07/11 about security for Brooks which mentions “police concern” | ||
Keegan said she would have been more concerned with press attention than the police concern. | ||
“At some point it kicked in but not entirely sure when,” says PA Keegan about police interest in her boss Brooks in 2011 | ||
Another email from 06/07/11 about “Ken McDonald’ – confirmed Ken over here but he has to get back to Parly.” Keegan can’t recall who he is | ||
Keegan is show a ‘mood board’ of Carter’s interest in beauty products and PR | ||
Keegan confirms Carter would keep these mood boards on her desk or her big handbag. | ||
Keegan confirms that she had to keep some things for 7 years – business correspondence. | ||
Keegan says she may have received some formal document about archiving stuff – but cannot recollect any formal rule | ||
Edis asks Keegan about “a window closing” for her trip to Australia. Very long drawn out process. The deadline was beginning of Feb 2012 | ||
Carter first applied in 2007 for a Australian visa – slot held open for five years. | ||
Edis asks Keegan how she knew Brooks had nothing to do with the withdrawal of the boxes. “She would have told me.” | ||
As for the lodging of the boxes in archives in 2009: “She would have no reason to be concerned about that,” says Keegan of Brooks. | ||
Saunders asks about Brooks notetaking – “they would be put in the filing cabinet.” Edis: That would contain notebooks? “They may have done” | ||
“Cheryl and I got their by default, we don’t know how we got there,” says Keegan of arriving at deep carpet land of corporate level | ||
Edis then turns to Brooks’ technical competence with phones etc. “Was she able to work an iPhone?” “Not so much an iPhone… the basics” | ||
Keegan says Brooks was not so good with iPhone but better with an iPad | ||
Keegan says she Brooks was fine with a laptop. She got better as time went on. | ||
Keegan says she still works for NewsUK working for TLS and doing research for corporate affairs. | ||
Edis goes to three page News International records transfer document. Keegan says she probably has seen the document before. | ||
The document is written in by Phillipa Bishop – a temp doing filing, under the direction of Carter and Keegan | ||
The document from Brooks office, dated 22/10/09, lists the contents of five boxes – with 21 files. | ||
Keegan says it looks like another downsizing with someone helping out with paperwork and filing. | ||
This was 8 weeks after the first sorting before 02/09/2009: “probably part and parcel of the same thing…. the tail end of the downsizing” | ||
Keegan says the temp may have got someone from archives to help her with the filing records. | ||
Edis asks what happened to the Sun office “step by step”. Keegan: “I wouldn’t be able to accurately say how we processed it.” Will you try? | ||
Keegan says they would assessed their needs. Boxes delivered. Cheryl and herself would have loaded. Move made in the last few days | ||
“It appears from these documents material was placed in archive on two different dates,” says Edis. Keegan has no idea why. Maybe too heavy | ||
Saunders points out that the filing is quite detailed – editorial review, Dear Deidre: they are all dated and have been sorted. | ||
“We got the slight impression you just shoved it in there and got them into archives” says Saunders. “That’s how we dealt with them” says PA | ||
Witness – Jane Viner (Facilities Manager at News International) | ||
Prosecution Counsel questions Jane Viner | ||
Bryant Heron for the Crown calls Jane Viner, the facilities manager at News International | ||
But before then Bryant Heron has a bit of house keeping on the jury bundles for Operation Sacha (alleged coverup counts 6 & 7) | ||
Jane Viner is still group director for property and facilities for NewsUK, as she was for News International in 2009-2011 | ||
Viner is in charge of properties and all the things that make the property tick. | ||
“If you’ve got any spare time can you fix the air condition here?” jokes Saunders to Viner. | ||
Viner had special responsibility for the move to Thomas More Square from Oct 2010 to May 2011 | ||
Viner confirms the executive level moved to TMS in October 2011 | ||
Viner had nothing to do with the Enfield archive for NI | ||
Bryant Heron wants to know specifically about events in July 2011 when NOTW was closed. The staff email was the first time Viner knew | ||
On NOTW closure email on the 7th July 2011, Viner was asked by Paul Cheeseborough (chief Tech) and Derek Crowley (HR) to close NOTW offices | ||
NOTW and Fabulous magazine was on the 2nd floor of TMS. There was police advice on how to close it down. | ||
Mark Hanna and his team were also involved in securing the NOTW offices. Hanna reported direct to Viner | ||
After the last edition of NOTW on 09/07/11, each desk, PC and pedestal was given a number, secured and photographed by Hanna’s team | ||
On Sunday 10th of July 2011, police attended to survey the scene. The offices of editor and senior employees was sealed. | ||
Viner says in mid July July Susan Panuccio told her that Brooks may be working away from the office. Brooks resigned on 15th July | ||
Viner went to see Will Lewis running the MSC about preparing for Brooks’ exit that Friday | ||
Viner was in Lewis’ office the day she resigned: Brooks came in to say “Thankyou, Jane” | ||
Viner says Will Lewis told him “the police had asked (Brooks) her to leave the office by lunchtime” | ||
Brooks was in the office with Cheeseborough, Lewis and Greenberg and explained to her she could only leave with personal items. | ||
Viner escorted Brooks out of the building with a member of security staff: she just had a handbag and a tote bag which Viner carried for her | ||
Viner returned to see Will Lewis: “Mrs Brooks was now considered a person of interest by police and her office needs to be sealed” | ||
Viner asked for the locks to Brooks office to be changed, and security staff guarded it | ||
“What was locked down and secured? Was it the open plan area or just Mrs Brooks’ office?” asks crown. “Just Brooks’ office,” replies Viner | ||
Bryant Heron winds back to 13th/14th Viner says Mark Hanna was working in Oxfordshire providing off site security for Brooks. | ||
That following weekend – of 16th/17th – when Brooks’ was arrested, Viner thinks Hanna was in Oxon in morning of Sunday, back in London pm | ||
Viner explains Hanna reported to her in administrative matters, but took direction on security from members of the executive. | ||
Head of Security Hanna would provide weekly updates to Viner, but not necessarily a great amount of detail | ||
Viner confirms to Saunders that it was completely acceptable for Hanna to work to direction of senior executives | ||
Viner explains that she doesn’t know exactly which executive Hanna was working for during those days in Oxfordshire in July 2011 | ||
Bryant Heron goes through a call schedule which shows Hanna calling Jane Viner. | ||
Viner said she spoke to Hanna that Sunday morning Brooks was arrested. He wasn’t driving his own car but someone else’s. | ||
Viner then said she would sort out the insurance on the different cars, since someone else was driving Hanna’s car that Sunday | ||
Viner made sure Hanna was covered to drive any vehicle, and that his colleague was insured to drive Hanna’s car. | ||
The other colleague was working for private security | ||
Viner says working weekends is not unusual: but that Sunday were running executive meetings and building new offices for the MSC. | ||
Viner says she spoke to Hanna later that day – she was concerned he’d worked three successive weekends. | ||
Viner doesn’t believe Mark Hanna was in Thomas More Square that Sunday 17th July 2011 when Brooks was arrested. | ||
Facilities, security and property were located on the second floor of Thomas More Sq, says Viner | ||
Viner thinks they finished late afternoon on the Sunday: “It was quite a dramatic day…. a flood in the building.” | ||
On the Monday 18th Viner was asked by Cheeseborough to accompany DS Hartnett to retrieve bags they’d sealed on a previous Friday evening | ||
Viner cannot recollect if Carter was at work that day. | ||
Viner asked her facilties manager and discovered 2 items had been sent by courier by Carter to Brooks’ London address on 20th and 21st July | ||
The post room slip shows Carter posted items to Charlie and Rebekah Brooks: the dockets said ‘small package’ and the other a bike delivery | ||
Viner became aware that Cheryl Carter was leaving that week – she left on the 21st of July. She asked Viner what she could take | ||
Viner was given no specific instructions how to deal with Carter’s exit: but she did advise her to leave “all work items in situ” | ||
Viner said they gave Carter’s desk and files a specific number and it was taken to the MSC for storage – in Wapping | ||
Once in the safe store in Wapping those items were under control of MSC and security team – she can’t recall if Hanna’s or not | ||
Viner says that messengers worked for newspapers, a kind of ‘runner’, and so less relevant to the executive floor. | ||
Counsel for Rebekah Brooks cross examines Jane Viner | ||
Laidlaw, counsel for Brooks, cross examines Jane Viner, head of Facilities at NI. | ||
Laidlaw goes back to events the day before Brooks resigns: her departure was being discussed on Thurs 14th July 2011 | ||
Laidlaw says there were discussions about a ‘leave of absence’ and discussions of support for an office for Brooks away from TMS | ||
Brooks’ resignation was announced at 9.30 the next day. Viner has no direct knowledge of any discussions before then about resignation | ||
Viner cannot recall Brooks walking around the building saying goodbye to staff. | ||
Viner was in Knightsbridge when she read the 9.30 am email: didn’t get back to TMS till a few hours later. | ||
By 10 to midday Viner was in Brooks’ office to supervise sealing office, leaving computer equipment behind. | ||
Viner remembers a discussion about Brooks’ Blackberry: it was “sealed technology wise… but they can keep the kit” | ||
Laidlaw says that Blackberries were disabled from accessing NI systems when NOTW was closed. | ||
Laidlaw asks how Brooks appeared when she was escorted out of the building: “she looked upset…. yes, she did (look shocked)” | ||
Viner confirms that once Brooks was a ‘person of interest’ her office lock barrel was changed, and keys in security sealed pouch | ||
Viner can’t confirm directly Brooks computers were just left in the offices | ||
“To the best of my knowledge the office had been secured,” says Viner of the Friday of Brooks’ resignation. | ||
Viner confirms personal items returned to Brooks – work related items take to MSC storage in Wapping | ||
Carter left the week after Brooks: Viner personally supervised the packing of her files on 22/07/11. Items numbered but not checked | ||
Viner did not know whether the files in Carter’s area was executive material or not. | ||
Viner will return on Monday for more cross examination by Burke and counsel for Hanna | ||
Jury not sitting tomorrow because of a funeral |
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